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Post by moonblade on Oct 31, 2008 21:28:15 GMT
Too close to 'Jedi Academy' for me personally
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Post by ita1crx on Nov 3, 2008 17:22:43 GMT
So is the original print of FFTD different than the Project Aon version? IE was 'children' originally 'sons'
I won't be able to look for 4ish hours.
Also, are the Kai Lords the same as Warrior Lords? IE, you need to be the child of a Kai to become a Kai? That wouldn't make any sense though since they were slaughtered in FFTD.
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Post by moonblade on Nov 3, 2008 18:04:48 GMT
^ Seems doubtful. My understanding of it is that any child who showed "latent ability" was eligible to become part of the Kai corps.
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Post by huanchoo on Nov 4, 2008 1:40:37 GMT
does this mean that the Kai sent out scouts to find new recruits? or do they go to each village & hold 'interviews' to find these special children?
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Post by darktelepath on Nov 4, 2008 4:28:08 GMT
From how I always interpreted it, before the first monastery burned down, they really only took in the children of lords. So they were more like knights who were really only from the upper class.
Since Lone Wolf took over, to quickly get as many recruits as possible, I think he had every available kid show up for tryouts. Also with all the Lorestone knowledge, he could probably have weeded through them pretty quickly.
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Post by Ghuntar on Nov 5, 2008 10:21:24 GMT
Another question related to this topic : Silent Wolf must be a Warlord Son... Is the name of this Warlord stated somewhere ? Does have Silent Wolf a family ?
Ghuntar.
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Post by outspaced on Nov 5, 2008 11:31:29 GMT
According to the Legends he is the son of "respected members of the village society". This is borne out by him growing up in a small village called Dage on the banks of the river Tor (mentioned in The Prisoners of Time). According to the Legends Lone Wolf's father died when he was four; no name is given for him. Nor is it explained what their exact role was within the village.
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Post by Ghuntar on Nov 5, 2008 13:16:22 GMT
Thanks, I never read the Legends, maybe one day, if translated in French...
Ghuntar.
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Post by ita1crx on Nov 5, 2008 18:52:57 GMT
I looked at my copy of FFTD and it says children. So its definitely gender neutral.
Lone Wolf did/does have family. He has at least two siblings. His older brother died on his birthday (pulling LW out of the river Tor) and he has a sister.
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Post by Wolfus on Nov 6, 2008 11:33:41 GMT
I don't think, they seek children only among nobility. It would be unwise, because they could miss talented ones. I imagine, they arrive to a village/town and "feel" special powers in gifted children regardless of they social status.
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Post by beowuuf on Nov 6, 2008 19:51:02 GMT
My guess is that nobles, being closer to court, Kai, etc in their day to day dealings would also be a) more likely to spot the same abilities in the young, and b) more inclined to wish their son or daughter was displaying those talents for the honour of it.
Therefore, noble children are probably volunteered for trial, whereas Kai would make pilgrimages to the villages to seek out Kai. I know that's how I've always imagined both the First and Second Order doing it!
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Post by section350 on Nov 7, 2008 4:24:00 GMT
I don't think, they seek children only among nobility. It would be unwise, because they could miss talented ones. I imagine, they arrive to a village/town and "feel" special powers in gifted children regardless of they social status. Silent Wolf's family is clearly not nobility. If they're "respected members of the village society" they might be in some sort of mercantile position, making them part of the middle class (such as it would exist in a Middle Ages world like Magnamund). So they might have some money and prestige, but they're still clearly peasants. And the Kai would be out looking for "gifted" kids among the peasantry, because Sommerlund is so highly militarized -- there's a passage either in the first Legends book or the Magnamund Companion, I think -- about how pretty much everyone gets some military training in Sommerlund due to the constant threat of invasion and being overrun with the Darklords to the west. So in spite of the feudal social order, circumstance and survival would force a certain amount of meritocracy in Sommerlund. Thus the need to look for Kai recruits in even small towns like Dage. To paraphrase the game rules, I imagine being a son/descendant/relative of a previously selected Kai, although it would be an advantage, would not be necessary for admission to the monastery.
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Post by ita1crx on Nov 7, 2008 13:48:27 GMT
I think that the children of the Warrior Lords were selected. IE, some people may have gone for their ability while others went for their nobility.
I think in one of the newsletters its mentioned that some Kai never rise through the ranks. IE they may only ever learn a single Kai ability. And probalby never leave the Kai monastary. Those could be the Kai that are there for their nobility rather than abilities.
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Post by kurz81 on Sept 7, 2019 19:37:29 GMT
Kai New Order Grand Masters names and recount. Firestone was the highest in rank of the new order during LW18, 19 and 20. Bright Star was ranked GM at the beginning of LW24. Firestone and Bright Star were dead at the beginning of LW29. Black Hawk and Swift Sword died at the end of LW29.
1. Firestone (dead) 2. Bright Star (dead) 3. You (Sabre Fox?) 4. Black Hawk (dead) 5. Steel Hand (captured, but alive) 6. Star Lynx 7. Blazer 8. Swift Sword (dead)
According to these records and names of students in LW18 I think that hints lead to Sabre Fox being the Grand Master protagonist of the new order serie.
I don't really like the names from the generator.
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Post by GhostofLandar on Sept 9, 2019 1:33:16 GMT
Well, to be fair, not all background information about Sommerlund clearly indicates the opposite. The Magnamund Companion is quite vague and ambiguous about intake to the Kai Monastery. Personally, since they are the Kai Monks, I'd hazard a guess that Joe originally made it a male-only order, but that both Grant/Barnett and the Mongoose editorial staff considered that limiting in terms of potential sales, and so altered it. Joe clearly isn't too fussed either way, which is why the Kai Monastery has now been Politically Correctified to show no gender bias. Probably even other races, such as the Drakkarim, Vassagonians, the Agarashi, and the Darklords could now train at the monastery and learn Kai Disciplines. (I don't particularly feel too strongly about this in RPG terms, but I do think it very odd that young girls would be sent away from their parents to a monastery (not a nunnery) to learn combat and battle-techniques so they can take charge of a battalion in a war situation!) Thank goodness the Sommerlund Compendium is pretty clear that only Sommlending-descended people have been blessed by Kai. However, that does not preclude people from learning magic of all kinds or from being similarly-blessed with their own special powers (the Elder Magi-Vakeros relationship, Drakkarim and the Darklords/Nadziranim various gifts)
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