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Post by invoker on Dec 22, 2008 21:18:44 GMT
Which Kai Weapon do you think is the best? The only New Order book I have is "The Fall of Blood Mountain" so I picked Illuminatus to get the constant +7 bonus.
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Post by Taryn on Jan 9, 2009 0:36:33 GMT
I'm thinking a lot of people have little or no familiarity with the New Order books. They were only released in a few areas, such as the UK.
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Post by Black Cat on Jan 9, 2009 17:45:52 GMT
The first NO books I played was book 22. I've checked the tittle: The Buccaneers of Shadaki? There's a pirate on the cover? This means the adventure will be mainly on the oceans? Hum, so there's a chance that I will have to fight underwater, so let's pick Ulnarias. I wasn't wrong: there was ONE fight underwater. Does someone remembers if there is another underwater battle somewhere in the NO series?
That's the main problem with these Kai Weapons: some of them can only give a bonus on very rare occasions. For the weapon that gives a bonus when underground, there's book 26 that normaly gives you a bonus in each and every fight, but before and after this adventure, are there other occasions where this bonus applies?
The best Kai Weapon should either be the one used in daylight or the one used in the night time since you have more occasions to apply their respective bonuses than with any other weapon.
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Post by zorkraan on Jan 10, 2009 13:32:58 GMT
I assume that Spawnsmite could be very useful in book 24 Rune War and 27 (Vampirium) if we consider that Agarashi with reptilian morphologies ARE reptiles...
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Post by Taryn on Jan 10, 2009 15:07:26 GMT
Magnara seems really specific. How many times does LW have to fight stone, anyway?
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Post by Dave on Jan 11, 2009 5:06:21 GMT
The problem is, none of these are as good as the Sommerswerd. which gives +8 all the time against everybody. I really don't know what Joe Dever was thinking giving LW such a weapon in book 2...
The only time you get a better bonus is when underwater... +9.
I've never played the NO books, btw. I still have the read the Grandmaster series!
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Post by huanchoo on Jan 11, 2009 8:19:48 GMT
the sommerswerd is still the best weapon in the first 20 books as it can be used in every book & gives a huge CS bonus... there are of course some books where you are better off putting the SS in the monastery...
as for the NO books, i cannot comment because i have never played them before... but from what i've seen the weapons only serve you very well in only 1 book... come to think about it, why can't LW craft a weapon which has similar abilities to the SS? i thought Kai Weaponcrafting was a very cool skill...
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Post by beowuuf on Jan 11, 2009 8:38:40 GMT
Well, it was forged by demi-gods!
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Post by Doomy on Jan 11, 2009 9:46:55 GMT
How often would anyone expect to fight underwater? Wouldn't you have other problems, like breathing?
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Post by beowuuf on Jan 11, 2009 10:19:31 GMT
Maybe it effervesces?
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Post by moonblade on Jan 11, 2009 11:53:01 GMT
If memory serves--it's been a minute since I played any of the NOs and sadly I didn't find them particuarly memorable--battles are conducted the same way as Lone Wolf's underwater battles. That is, if you don't complete the battle within a certain number of rounds and you don't have the right skill (or the right drug) you start losing EP.
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Post by Doomy on Jan 11, 2009 12:37:00 GMT
Can you swap your Kai weapon between books, or are you stuck with the same one for the entire series?
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Post by Black Cat on Jan 12, 2009 20:10:27 GMT
I think you are stuck with it. If not, then you can't really swap it between 21-22, 22-23 or 27-28 since you are way too far from the Monastery to do so.
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Post by stormblade on Jan 21, 2009 9:50:03 GMT
I used to like Sunstrike, but the +6 weapons become less useful later. I pack Alema these days. Never know when you'll run into a zombie or whatnot.
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Post by kai on Dec 24, 2018 18:47:15 GMT
Valiance is the best. Sunstrike and kaistar are used a ton, but +1 and +2 cs don't help much in big battles. Kaistar is my second choice because the bigger fights are usually at night. Ulnarias stinks because the nigumu-sa fight in book 22 is easy enough, and the underwater fight in book 27 can be avoided by having animal mastery or just taking a different choice. Magnara is actually sometimes helpful outside combat, but not much. Illuminatus is actually harmful in book 28 when it is stolen and you have to fight Grave robbers, (with kai weapon), cs 52/48/44, ep 48. That is an underground fight, so you add 2 cs to the enemy. Raumas is used once or twice against easy combats, and spawnsmite is actually sort of helpful. It is used almost as much as kaistar, but the cs bonus stinks. Oh, and you can't switch kai weapons. Aleema helps against Zorkaan in 24, but he can be avoided. It helps in 25 against Xaol's skeleton guards, cs 45, ep 45), and Xaol zombie, (possessed by Zorkaan), cs 55/52, ep 42/40, but the former can be avoided by solving a puzzle, and the latter is only 3 rounds. Firefall is only used once in a cs 52, ep 58 combat, but it can easily be avoided.
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