bleh
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Post by bleh on Aug 31, 2010 13:51:53 GMT
hi there... i'm not really familiar with the lore to the extent of some of you seem to be, and i was wondering if you could enlighten me regarding the two points mentioned in the title:
- how come after the darklords die, the xaghash dont take over the darklands and the forces of Naar in general, since they are seconds only to the darklords and are accordingly reffered to as "lesser darklords" ?
- also, how come we never hear about the drakkarim women ? i mean, even these guys are just humans, only evily twisted, and surely need women of their kind to procreate their kin
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Post by altwren on Aug 31, 2010 14:32:17 GMT
Oh, I'm sure they have families somewhere. They're probably like Vikings, stealing women and children from their victories. Then those people only had two choices: become a good little Drakkarim wife or die.
Ah... times used to be so much simplier...
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Post by Black Cat on Aug 31, 2010 18:57:39 GMT
About the female Drakkarim, IIRC, one of the Newsletters says that they live with the Drakkarim kids in Drakkarim cities. We didn't exactly had a chance to see them though in the rare Drakkarim cities we visited in the gamebooks.
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bleh
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Post by bleh on Aug 31, 2010 19:31:17 GMT
alright thanks, i'll really have to take a better look at these newsletters
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Post by beowuuf on Aug 31, 2010 21:25:04 GMT
The lesser Darklords are just that - lesser. They are engaged with a war with all the other lower order powers, such as the Nadziranim for control of the Darklands.
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bleh
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Post by bleh on Sept 1, 2010 8:35:41 GMT
yeah you must be right, its just weird we dont hear about them like we do about the Nadziranim
btw i got a last question: does anyone know who are the 2 darklords slain by Vashna to make an example ?
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Post by askhati on Sept 1, 2010 10:49:17 GMT
That info is from the LW d20 rules, and should not be taken as canon. According to the MC, Vashna killed no-one. At the time of LW 1, there were still 19 Darklords. Gnaag did kill two of his brothers, but that was in the civil war following Haakon's death.
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bleh
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Post by bleh on Sept 1, 2010 11:28:04 GMT
alright, thanks
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Post by askhati on Sept 1, 2010 14:37:29 GMT
Starting number: 20
- Vashna killed by Ulnar (19)
- Zagarna killed by LW (18)
- Haakon killed/banished by LW (17)
- two killed by Gnaag during civil war (15)
- Taktaal killed by LW (14)
- Gnaag killed by LW (13)
- remaining 13 killed when LW destroys the Tanoz-tukor after killing Gnaag (0)
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Post by bleh on Sept 1, 2010 14:48:18 GMT
Gnaag killed both Unc and Ghurch (treacherously i believe ?) plus was responsible for sending the remaining darklords abroad to their deaths, gosh he truly was the worst
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Post by askhati on Sept 1, 2010 15:25:58 GMT
Oh by the dark gods, not that discussion again...
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Post by entropy3ko on Jul 16, 2011 2:55:03 GMT
Starting number: 20 - Vashna killed by Ulnar (19) - Zagarna killed by LW (18) - Haakon killed/banished by LW (17) - two killed by Gnaag during civil war (15) - Taktaal killed by LW (14) - Gnaag killed by LW (13) - remaining 13 killed when LW destroys the Tanoz-tukor after killing Gnaag (0) You forgot Kraagenskull, killed by LW as well. LW takes the Helshezag from Kraagensull So 12 Darklords die because of the Tanoz-tukor distruction. Gnaag killed both Unc and Ghurch (treacherously i believe ?) plus was responsible for sending the remaining darklords abroad to their deaths, gosh he truly was the worst I am not sure about Dever side of the story, but the Darklands Companion of the LW RPG, seems to sublty hint that there were more Darklords and they were killed by Vashna during his rise to power. After all Vashna threw Xog into the Lake of Blood and destroyed his compound in Helgedad (although Xog survived and came out after a decade or so earning Vashna respect), always according to the Darklands companion to the LW RPG |
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Post by beowuuf on Jul 16, 2011 6:03:08 GMT
I think originally JD planned that a few darklords died by Vashna's hand and probably had it in his own background notes, but by the time he did the actual darklords count up for the magnamaki series decided to simply have the two deaths under Gnaag. Which elevated Gnaag as a baddie to watch right away. You can see this where in an early lone wolf letter the number or darklords still alive at the start of LW ties up with the Darkloands suppliment, yet a later lone wolf letter answer ties up with the new canon. I think all the LWRPG d20 stuff were created with reference to JD and JD's old notes, so many cool hings are revealed, but I have a feeling this passing reference was missed as no longer canon. I reconsiled it in a little short story set where Gnaag appeared to be killed when Vashna first took power, and two others (I think Xog and whoever has no form) were also apparently killed (Xog and thing with their flesh stripped for Vashna's throne, as per the opld canon) who were scapegoats to keep the other darklords in check, and who otherwise received their gifts from that act. Although also a reminder to be loyal  And it still keeps in tact the notion that Gnaag actually being ruthless enoguh to just wipe out a rival and not subjudagte them meant he had a ruthlessness that even Vashna had not. |
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Post by kai on Dec 24, 2018 19:48:11 GMT
Actually, I thought book 15 said Darklord Dakushna was killed in the hellswamp, and there was a whole waterway named after him called Dakushna's channel. Didn't he die when he lost the Nyras Scepter?
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Post by jmisno1 on Dec 30, 2018 14:02:54 GMT
Actually, I thought book 15 said Darklord Dakushna was killed in the hellswamp, and there was a whole waterway named after him called Dakushna's channel. Didn't he die when he lost the Nyras Scepter? Actually The Hellswamp was named after him cos of how filthy, slimy, poisonous, disgusting and evil they both are, now where in Darklord Dakushna's case |
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