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Post by Frying Pan on Nov 14, 2004 3:37:50 GMT
This is a crazy question, but...
Where exactly in the books does it say Lone Wolf is male? (Never mind the illustrations).
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Post by Lazy KaiLord on Nov 14, 2004 5:56:09 GMT
From Shadow on the Sand:
The grim-faced Sharnazim encircle you, their razor-sharp scimitars glinting in the afternoon sun. 'Take him!' shouts Maouk. 'But take him alive!'
KL, gender defender
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Post by Zipp on Nov 14, 2004 18:14:37 GMT
Yeah, I used to wonder that myself, but came up with the same passage. There are plenty more later in the book, too.
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Post by Banedon on Nov 14, 2004 20:24:19 GMT
I just assumed LW was male...I always have thought of him as a "he" rather than a "she"...
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Post by Thomas Wolmer on Nov 14, 2004 21:13:16 GMT
I read The Story So Far in Flight From the Dark where the second paragraph starts "The Kai monks...". And I always thought of monks as being more "he" than "she" too.
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Post by Sol on Nov 15, 2004 16:22:44 GMT
The beauty of the series is this: almost no description is given as to Lone Wolf's appearance or personality. That means YOU the reader can fill it in for yourself... for that matter, when Dever says, "YOU are Lone Wolf!" it can be true!
Little change to the story would take place if Lone Wolf were female. For example, Lone Wolf never has any experience that "flaunts" his masculinity. Like when he takes a bath in Book 5 - with all his clothes on. Or the fact that he never has a romance. Thoughts on this?
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Post by Frying Pan on Nov 15, 2004 16:31:42 GMT
The use of "he" in referring to Lone Wolf pretty much seals it, I think.
Unless, in some warped fantasy world, Lone Wolf is secretly a transvestite cross dresser, which would explain why everyone mistakes her for a man.
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Post by Black Cat on Nov 15, 2004 16:34:53 GMT
For example, Lone Wolf never has any experience that "flaunts" his masculinity. Like when he takes a bath in Book 5 - with all his clothes on. Or the fact that he never has a romance. Thoughts on this? Bathing with his clothes: maybe he wanted to wash them at the same time? Even if you are a man, you still want to look good. Never had a romance: I don't remember him meeting a girl with whom he might had a chance to get a romance with. Serocca loves someone else (and, besides, she lives in another universe), Alyss seems too young for him and Queen Evaine would rather married someone from a royal bloodline. Maybe he had an affair with Baron Vanalund's daughter after he saved her?
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Post by Sol on Nov 15, 2004 18:04:21 GMT
I like your idea!
It's not that bathing in his clothes is evidence for Lone Wolf being female, rather that it seems to leave Lone Wolf's sexuality out of the picture. That's how I read it.
On second thought, I am sure I am over-reading this!
Sexuality is personal, and much of Lone Wolf's personality is left to the imagination.
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Post by RamasKnight on Nov 15, 2004 19:30:46 GMT
Maybe Banedon is something more than just a "good friend"... Apart from the jokes: the great warriors of the past spent years fighting for their ideals without seeing a woman. They developped a sort of "brotherhood" among them which allowed them to face the lack of women. I dont' want to say that Lonewolf is a homosexual... I say that he is in the same situation of Achille and Patroclo: heroes whose ideals were stronger than other feelings.
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Post by Black Cat on Nov 15, 2004 19:39:12 GMT
I dont' want to say that Lonewolf is a homosexual... I say that he is in the same situation of Achille and Patroclo: heroes whose ideals were stronger than other feelings. Ok, this explains why he wasn't very active in the search of a woman during his adventurous years. But now that he stays at monastery, he might have more time to go to Holmgard or Toran with Banedon and go to the clubs of these cities and have some fun with the ladies. After all, LW still looks young, thanks to the power of the Lorestones.
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Post by Zipp on Nov 16, 2004 0:01:19 GMT
Oh yeah, what is he now, like 40?
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Post by outspaced on Nov 16, 2004 9:01:19 GMT
Oh yeah, what is he now, like 40? But on attaining to Kai Grand Mastership he only aged one year every five; as a Kai Supreme Master he probably starts growing younger. And who says the "clubs" in Holmgard and Toran have to be filled with women, eh? Get my drift? Perhaps Magnamund will have a new TV show in the future: "Queer Eye for the Last Kai".
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Post by Peregrine on Nov 16, 2004 9:16:52 GMT
Perhaps Magnamund will have a new TV show in the future: "Queer Eye for the Last Kai". ROFL! I've seen a few too many thin 'Queer Eye' parodies, but that is great. Good call! As for pursuing a relationship now that he's settled down in the Kai Monastery, let me just point out that it is a monastery. He's literally a monk (even though they aren't called 'Kai monks' beyond about the first book). Still, that connotation of 'monk' doesn't necessarily hold for the Kai. And a few sons of a son of the sun could be an asset to the Kai in later years...
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Post by columbob on Nov 16, 2004 12:44:33 GMT
I dont' want to say that Lonewolf is a homosexual... I say that he is in the same situation of Achille and Patroclo: heroes whose ideals were stronger than other feelings. Back in Ancient Greece, women weren't even considered citizens. They stayed at home or went to the market, but that's it. Men slept with women to procreate, and they slept with other men for the pleasure. So homosexuality was part of everyday life in those times.
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