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Post by Shadacool on Aug 25, 2005 21:38:14 GMT
Is it possible to use the bonuses granted by a Potion of Alether during the combat against Altan ?
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Post by Black Cat on Aug 26, 2005 0:04:40 GMT
Some people would do it, and other people won't. For myself, I don't think it is plausible to add a bonus because of the Alether. I think that the effect of this potion makes you stronger, allowing you to deliver more powerful blows to your enemies (adding 2 CS to your total means that you will move of one column to the right on the CRT). In the case of the Archery contest, a stronger guy won't mean that he is more accurate, which is why I consider the use of the Alether useless in this case. And it would be a case of doping... I know that there's also some people that discussed the use of the Psi-Surge and of the Silver Helm during the contest. In the case of the Psi-Surge, I understand that you could distract Altan with it, although I consider this as cheating. As for the Silver Helm, maybe the magical properties of it make you more accurate? In any cases, you can't add bonuses granted by shields.
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Post by Al on Aug 26, 2005 10:08:15 GMT
I have always thought if it as some sort of "frenzy" that it puts you in, making you more aggressive, but I aggree that it would be unplausable and a little Lance Armstrongish to use Al
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Post by Shadacool on Aug 26, 2005 10:16:30 GMT
Thanks for your answers. I always thought like you that Alether shouldn't be used there. So without CS 19 and the +3 bonus from Weaponmastery with bow, the Silver Bow is extremely hard to get.
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Post by Al on Aug 26, 2005 12:19:34 GMT
Not impossible though, remember the combat results table is slanted (heavily) in LWs favour, so that means that you start with an advantage there, and you can use your mindblast and silver helmet (I am firm believer in the use of the Silver Helmet here) All in all you have a pretty hard time getting it, but it does get you one of the best weapons in the game, one that I would argue is comparable with ol' betsy (the sommerswerd) Just a thought, Al
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Post by nigthhunter on Aug 26, 2005 12:54:29 GMT
Comparable with the sommerswerd, poor Al, have drink to much U.K. beer. Come back soon man, it's not a joke. I know this bow is hard to get but if you like to use a bow in your inventory, this is the perfect match with the sommerswerd.
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Post by Akka on Aug 26, 2005 14:09:56 GMT
Isn't Alether supposed to make you simply more "able" in fight ? Like better precision, more control, and the like ?
If so, it would be perfectly acceptable in an archery contest.
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Post by Al on Aug 26, 2005 14:11:14 GMT
What do you mean it is not comparable with the sommersword? At higher levels it is impossible (literally) to miss with this thing! It is the perfect weapon, in that regard. One shot one kill. If I had to choose between it or ol Betsy in an RPG, there is a good chance I would take it. Combined, they make LW nearly unstopable! Al
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Post by Al on Aug 26, 2005 14:13:15 GMT
Isn't Alether supposed to make you simply more "able" in fight ? Like better precision, more control, and the like ? If so, it would be perfectly acceptable in an archery contest. That would be true, if someone could post the actual discrption given in the books, then that could help with that (I do not know the books well enough to find it right off the bat, and do not have paper copies to look through ) Al
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Post by Shadacool on Aug 26, 2005 14:38:41 GMT
Isn't Alether supposed to make you simply more "able" in fight ? Like better precision, more control, and the like ? If so, it would be perfectly acceptable in an archery contest. That would be true, if someone could post the actual discrption given in the books, then that could help with that (I do not know the books well enough to find it right off the bat, and do not have paper copies to look through ) Al After doing some research: From book 1, section 164: Pulling out the glass stopper, you recognize the smell to be that of Alether, a Potion of Strength, which is orange in colour.From book 3, section 311: You recognize the Potion to be distilled Alether, a potion of strength. Your Kai masters used Alether to increase their COMBAT SKILL in battle, and there is enough concentrated Alether in this Vial to increase your COMBAT SKILL by 4 for the duration of one combat.From book 6, section 250: You recognize the orange berries of the alether plant. They are much sought after by warriors and soldiers, for they increase both strength and skill during combat.So Alether seems to mostly influence strength. So in my opinion, it's almost useless in an archery tournament.
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Post by nigthhunter on Aug 26, 2005 22:50:05 GMT
What do you mean it is not comparable with the sommersword? At higher levels it is impossible (literally) to miss with this thing! It is the perfect weapon, in that regard. One shot one kill. If I had to choose between it or ol Betsy in an RPG, there is a good chance I would take it. Combined, they make LW nearly unstopable! Al I mean you cannot use the bow when you want and it's useless for a close-combat. But with the Sommerswerd in the other hand, yeah you are unstopable. Like I said it's the perfect match, that why I don't compare it with the Sommerswerd. IT's true on high level you have about 10% chance to miss the target. As for the use of the alether in the contest again Altan, it's a case of doping. But the thing is that Lonewolf is not a Saint and I'm sure that Altan with is 30 CS, if I remember well, is not clear the guy.
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Post by Zipp on Aug 27, 2005 21:03:07 GMT
I don't think you can use Alether, because no other point in the series lets you use Alether to icnrease your chances with a bow, not that I recall. And using equipment is likewise dissallowed. Also the use of psychic powers, because Altan would be rolling on the ground screaming. Though I suppose you could disqualify him that way and thus win the match by default.
And chopping off his legs with the Sommerswerd has reprecussions.
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Post by Dusk Fox on Aug 27, 2005 22:57:12 GMT
Bah, just cheat and win the damn bow. We all know it's not about the contest, it's about the cool swag you get afterward.
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Post by Sarra on Aug 28, 2005 6:13:39 GMT
That would be true, if someone could post the actual discrption given in the books, then that could help with that (I do not know the books well enough to find it right off the bat, and do not have paper copies to look through ) Al After doing some research: From book 1, section 164: Pulling out the glass stopper, you recognize the smell to be that of Alether, a Potion of Strength, which is orange in colour.From book 3, section 311: You recognize the Potion to be distilled Alether, a potion of strength. Your Kai masters used Alether to increase their COMBAT SKILL in battle, and there is enough concentrated Alether in this Vial to increase your COMBAT SKILL by 4 for the duration of one combat.From book 6, section 250: You recognize the orange berries of the alether plant. They are much sought after by warriors and soldiers, for they increase both strength and skill during combat.So Alether seems to mostly influence strength. So in my opinion, it's almost useless in an archery tournament. At least you wouldn't have to worry about falling short of the target.
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Post by artichu on Aug 28, 2005 20:52:14 GMT
Strength is definitely a factor in archery. You need a lot of arm strength to bend the bow steadily and accurately without wavering, and to be able to bend it enough to send the arrow the distance you need it to go.
I would count Alether during the archery contest as at least being *possible*.
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