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Post by Al on Aug 29, 2005 10:36:42 GMT
I don't think you can use Alether, because no other point in the series lets you use Alether to icnrease your chances with a bow, not that I recall. And using equipment is likewise dissallowed. Also the use of psychic powers, because Altan would be rolling on the ground screaming. Though I suppose you could disqualify him that way and thus win the match by default. And chopping off his legs with the Sommerswerd has reprecussions. Thing is, though, while you are right, most other options to use the bow are one offs, so the use of alether would not make much sense As for psychic powers, what do they do? I always thougth that they put a sense of fear and doubt into your opponent, not actual physical pain. therefore I think both should be allowed Al
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Post by nigthhunter on Aug 29, 2005 16:57:36 GMT
For psychics powers, I always though that can be use with this contest.
That an excerpt from section 26 of Kingdom of Terror, "The tournament final is played out using the normal rules for combat."
So nothing tell you that you don't have the right to use the psi-urge or mind blast either of the alether. BTW, I always see alether like a doping case but against a 30/50 opponent, nothing is to lose and don't you get away with his horse? So what the hell with that Altan, you don't see him later in the books.
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Post by Dusk Fox on Aug 29, 2005 17:06:08 GMT
It's not the Olympics. It's a private contest between you and a total herb, so I think you're well within your rights to use performance-enhancing drugs, advanced sports psychology psych-out techniques, nonstandard equipment, and whatever else comes to mind to win that sweet, sweet bow.
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Post by artichu on Aug 29, 2005 19:08:07 GMT
I don't think you can use Alether, because no other point in the series lets you use Alether to icnrease your chances with a bow, not that I recall. And using equipment is likewise dissallowed. Also the use of psychic powers, because Altan would be rolling on the ground screaming. Though I suppose you could disqualify him that way and thus win the match by default. And chopping off his legs with the Sommerswerd has reprecussions. Thing is, though, while you are right, most other options to use the bow are one offs, so the use of alether would not make much sense As for psychic powers, what do they do? I always thougth that they put a sense of fear and doubt into your opponent, not actual physical pain. therefore I think both should be allowed Al There's some point (I forget where) where you can challenge a guy in a bar to an arm-wrestling contest or something, and if you use Psi-Surge against him you actually knock him unconscious with a wave of pain while wrestling him. And then you have to grab the prize money and run out of the bar before all his friends jump you. So I kind of doubt Psi-Surge would be helpful in an archery-contest context.
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Post by Moo on Aug 30, 2005 1:49:12 GMT
I think almost all the other chances to use a bow are along the lines of "you must fire now, or Humpty-Dumpty will die," so there wouldn't be enough time to swig a potion.
If you look at all the cases where Lone Wolf is under psychic attack, it's described like a mega-migraine type thing. It would be fairly logical to assume that Lone Wolf's own ability is similar. There is another instance of mindblast use right at the beginning of Fire on the Water, let's see...
No point in spoilering that, since I really doubt something as minor and close to the beginning could spoil someone's gaming experience.
I guess you could try to use a low-grade mindblast to give Altan a terrible headache, or give his forearm a jolt every time he shoots, so he thinks the string is slapping his arm.
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Post by Al on Aug 30, 2005 8:37:31 GMT
Thanks for the info, I totally forgot about that encounter in FOTW... still, it sounds as if you could use it in the contest without doing permanant harm to Atlan Al
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Post by Zipp on Aug 30, 2005 19:34:52 GMT
I forgot that the book says all normal combat rules apply. In that case I change my mind, it's perfectly legal to use naything you woulud use in normal combat.
EDIT: Excepting armor and what not. But potions, sure, and mind screw, sure.
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Post by Moo on Aug 31, 2005 23:11:57 GMT
Found another mindblast usage, this time from Shadow on the Sand.
Section 45: "You concentrate your Mindblast on the guard's hand. He screams and his fingers spring open as his hand is robbed of all feeling and control. He is now unarmed."
Sounds like using mindblast like that is a definite possibility.
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Post by Zipp on Sept 1, 2005 0:12:33 GMT
Found another mindblast usage, this time from Shadow on the Sand. Section 45: "You concentrate your Mindblast on the guard's hand. He screams and his fingers spring open as his hand is robbed of all feeling and control. He is now unarmed."Sounds like using mindblast like that is a definite possibility. Hee hee, he drops it. He picks it up. He drops it. He picks it up. He drops it. He picks it up. Lone Wolf wins. He drops it.
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Post by nigthhunter on Sept 1, 2005 0:55:31 GMT
So let say, if LoneWolf can concentrate his Mindblast on Altan's fingers who hold the string of his bow and make them numb, so that way, we can use mindblast with no restriction.
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Post by Al on Sept 2, 2005 12:34:01 GMT
Personally, I just like the idea of filling him with doubt myself Al
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Post by nigthhunter on Sept 3, 2005 0:38:32 GMT
I don't think LoneWolf can use this ability in book 6. If you look at Improved Disciplines section, it say;
"Psi-surge Principalins using this skill in combat are able to confuse an enemy by planting seeds of doubt in its mind. The effectiveness of this ability increases as a Kai Master rises in rank."
So only a principalin (who possess 6 disciplines) can put doubt to is enemy. In book 6, Lonewolf is only a Kai master senior (who possess 3 disciplines).
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Post by Al on Sept 5, 2005 14:11:20 GMT
So then it is pain? Oh well, if it is for the cause... Al
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Post by nigthhunter on Sept 5, 2005 18:36:48 GMT
As we say, let melt his brain in a Jell-O thing and win that bow. It's really possible that they think he a got a CVA, isn't?? Other way, one round and his out the Altan.
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Post by Al on Sept 6, 2005 9:17:55 GMT
CVA? Al
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