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Post by BenKenobi on Oct 19, 2007 13:08:21 GMT
Yes, it could be a nice idea to have a list of FAQ !
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Post by silentmarmot on Oct 25, 2007 12:45:37 GMT
Well, about the use of healing potions, I would say that : Laumpsur meals, as a meal, can restore EP anytime you need to eat a meal, from any source of damage. Laumpsur potions, made from those leaves, have the same medical effect and therefore should be able to heal any damage at any time. It's a very personal view. If you want to stick to the rules, I think that "after a combat" is only there to increase the book's difficulty : you drink it right after a combat (or when you stopped running, in case you evade), betting you won't have the opportunitie to regain your maximum level of endurance before the next fight. And you can't take it when you sense that a big fight is on the verge to happen.
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Post by outspaced on Oct 25, 2007 15:21:07 GMT
I would tend to agree with that, silentmarmot. Though you would still lose 3EP the next time you're told you MUST eat if you lack another Mal and the Hunting Discipline.
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Post by merc on Nov 21, 2007 23:42:29 GMT
Another meal and Hunting Disciplin? I don't think anyone is saying that you can use a Laumspure Meal to heal exept when instructed to eat in the book! If it was a computer game, LW would say: - "I don't want to, I'm not hungry!" Anyway, there are plenty of different Laumspure poitions around: - Potion of Laumspur (+4EP)
- Potion of Destilated Laumspur (+5EP)
- Jug of Concentrated Laumspur (+8EP)
I would not be suprised if there are more as well... There is the Rindalins Elexir as well, but I have not found it... If you know of any others, please tell!
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Post by silentmarmot on Nov 22, 2007 8:22:19 GMT
Please, BenKenobi, re-read the messages. Nobody has said your could eat a laumpsur meal at any time !
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Post by merc on Nov 22, 2007 23:13:11 GMT
Don't missunderstand me here! I do agree with your post Silentmarmot, it's just that if you take a look at what Outspaced wrote: It kind of implies that you just ate your last Laumspure Meal out of order, then you lose the same 3EP when you have to eat next time as you are now out of food! This is of course only one interpretation... If you have another one, please share. /Merc
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Post by outspaced on Nov 22, 2007 23:39:53 GMT
I don't see a problem in eating a Laumspur Meal whenever you want. After all, it's no different to any other healing balm. Does Lone Wolf say: "Sorry, I'm not thirsty enough to drink a Laumspur potion"? A Meal that gives bonus ENDURANCE points is merely a potion that can be used to fend off hunger if required.
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Post by merc on Nov 23, 2007 3:13:33 GMT
Ok, now I get what you are saying! And if you eat that Meal of Laumspore you would still have to eat next time as usual, I agree. As I play it, I try to follow the letter of the rules in the books. I would only eat when instructed to, and only use healing potions after combat. But as long as we all have fun, you do what works for you!
It would be nice with a listing for all the potions in the books!
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Post by Sphigx on May 3, 2010 20:53:01 GMT
In the past, when I read the books, I always 'drank' Laumspur potions at any time, not just 'after combat'. I could even 'drank' 2 or 3 of them if needed. But now I started to doubt, so my question is: are the various Healing potions (Laumspur, Laumwort, ...) meaned to be drunk only just after combat (so not 2 or 3 sections without combat after)? And is it possible to drink 2 or more potions, or just one? I'd like to have your opinion on the second question. Is it possible to drink two or more healing potions after a combat? If one has 8 Laumspur potions, can one recover 32 EP after a combat? If one is limited to one Laumpsur potion, can one drink a Laumspur potion, a dose of Rendalim's elixir, a dose of Tincture of Oxydine and a cup of Kourshah wine?
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Post by johntfs on May 4, 2010 3:42:12 GMT
In the past, when I read the books, I always 'drank' Laumspur potions at any time, not just 'after combat'. I could even 'drank' 2 or 3 of them if needed. But now I started to doubt, so my question is: are the various Healing potions (Laumspur, Laumwort, ...) meaned to be drunk only just after combat (so not 2 or 3 sections without combat after)? And is it possible to drink 2 or more potions, or just one? I'd like to have your opinion on the second question. Is it possible to drink two or more healing potions after a combat? If one has 8 Laumspur potions, can one recover 32 EP after a combat? If one is limited to one Laumpsur potion, can one drink a Laumspur potion, a dose of Rendalim's elixir, a dose of Tincture of Oxydine and a cup of Kourshah wine? I don't see why not. For my part, I subscribe to the idea that Laumspur can heal any form of EP. Recall that in The Darke Crusade all Laumspur and most other potions are removed from LW after the cave since it's presumed that he's drunk them for sustenance. Let's not overthink this. LW is a game-book series with fairly simple stats. Dever doesn't normally divide EP into separate types of damage except in regard to the Basic Kai Discipline, Healing. So, psychic damage, exhaustion, combat wounds and even starvation damage can all be healed by Laumspur (and any other healing potions). Once you get to the Magnakai series and the Curing Discipline, all damage becomes the same. That said, I do have a "house rule" that if you miss a Meal, Curing stops working until you find and eat another one the next time the text indicates. Let's recall for a moment the whole point of eating. You as a human comsume food that is broken down into sugar that ultimately combines with oxygen in the blood to release the energy that keeps you alive. The point is the energy. So, I have no problem accepting that Lauspur (and other potions) are semi-mystical sources of healing energy that can repair Endurance loss regardless of the source of that loss.
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Post by beowuuf on May 4, 2010 5:57:00 GMT
Healing: This Discipline can be used to restore ENDURANCE points lost in combat
Not must be, not can only, just can. Either flavour text to let you know you can heal combat damage, or because the greatest damage is from combat and it's letting you know that's its mainpurpose. By that text, it's not mandating only combat damage, it's giving you wiggle room to not heal the damage if you didn't want to! And reciprocally, mandating you must heal non combat damage actually. Except it says 'you restore' so you can't actually chose to not restore combat damage.
Note a mandated discipline in Weaponskill: When you enter combat carrying this weapon, you add 2 points to your COMBAT SKILL.
No ifs ands or but, no flavour text. You enter combat with that weapon, you are better with it than not.
Mindblast: It can be used at the same time as normal combat weapons and adds two extra points to your COMBAT SKILL
By the healing argument, you can't use Mindblast unarmed nor out of combat. That section where you mindblast Rohan without having weapons out, or the armwresting in the bar, were imaginary.
Laumspur: This can restore 4 ENDURANCE points to your total, when swallowed after combat.
Similarly, the 'after a combat' can be seen as either a flavour text, or an instruction tellign you not to use the thing during a combat, which you can't do but some people might think/hope you could.
Anyway, to answer the actual quesiton, no where does it say that Laumspur becomes less effective if you take more than one, let alone you can take only one. It's a simple game. And sometimes brutal in combat. 4EP restoration possible after losing all but 4EP? I don't think that sounds likely.
Sorry, just I seem to get the impression recently across multiple forums that these houserules on 'you cannot repair eating damage' etc are the only logical interpretations. And they're really not.
And as to the healing properties of certain things, as I've said before think of Endurance Points like stamina (they almost have the same name!). Wounds and fatigue can make you easier to tire out and thus land the true killing blow. Any source that restores your energy temporarily or helps ease the wound gives you equivalent energy in combat until you can eat or be patched up.
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Post by askhati on May 4, 2010 6:42:44 GMT
Talking about Rendalim's Elixir - I only noticed yesterday that a Herbwarder with the surname Rendalim tends to your wounds once you arrive in Durenor in LW 2. Wonder if they are the same guy...
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Post by beowuuf on May 4, 2010 8:30:02 GMT
I believe so, I think it's mentioned he's famous. Who said being the last of the Kai doesn't have its benefits
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Post by Sphigx on May 4, 2010 14:10:05 GMT
Thank you for your answers.
At the end of The Prisoners of Time, there is a difficult combat with the Villains of Sommerlund and then with Vonotar the Traitor. Stacking your backpack with healing potions so as to recover between the two combats seems the only way to cope.
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Post by beowuuf on May 4, 2010 19:17:03 GMT
Indeed, not even curing can pull your fat out of the fire there - too few sections, and some dare to have combats if I recall correctly
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