Sommerswerd and end of Book 5

[Holmes]

Possible spoilers concerning Book 5: Shadow on the Sand:






At the end of Book 5, in the battle against Haakon, there is a choice of retrieving the Sommerswerd, which has just been blasted from your hand by his Doomstone, or running for cover. If you do not immediately retrieve the Sommerswerd, you can potentially defeat Haakon without combat, turning his Doomstone against him.

My question is: if you do not retrieve the Sommerswerd, and go the other route, is it safe to assume that you retrieve the Sommerswerd after the combat?

The book doesn't say either way, and it does note that much of the ceiling collapses with his second bolt (easily to conceive that this might bury the Sommerswerd)

[doomwolf]

This is an excellent question, but I am inclined to say "yes", you can retrieve the Sommerswerd after combat. I'm far too lazy to look it up, but if memory serves you are not instructed to delete the Sommerswerd from your Action Chart in this instance.
Interestingly, it IS entirely possible to lose the Sommerswerd forever on Book 5 by simply not finding it again after your inevitable capture in the first half of the book. The Sommerswerd can also be permanently lost in a later book under similar circumstances - Castle Death, if memory serves.

There are also opportunities to get rid of Special Items of your choosing at various points in the books. If you were feeling generous, you could always give away the Sommerswerd!

[Holmes1]

Oh...disregard. The online book includes the erratta: "Remove the Sommerswerd from your action chart and restore it at the end of the adventure."

I never bothered to download the books since I have all the hard copies, but I think I will just for erratta purposes now.. ;D

[Vassagonian]

I always retrive Sommerswerd anyway. ;D

Basically, at that instant, Lone Wolf is a Savant (if you've completed 4 adventures). Can't we just assume he has enough experience to sense where the hell Sommerswerd is?

Sommerswerd is an awsome weapon, although some may compare it to backstabbing, cruel politician(I remember somebody wrote this).Yet venturing Magnakai Quest (at least the initial book 6-8) without Sommerswerd might prove a real drag to beginners;low CS,not enough discipline,yet to complete the lore circles,etc....So,what do you think?

[darktalon]

doomwolf said:

This is an excellent question, but I am inclined to say "yes", you can retrieve the Sommerswerd after combat. I'm far too lazy to look it up, but if memory serves you are not instructed to delete the Sommerswerd from your Action Chart in this instance.
Interestingly, it IS entirely possible to lose the Sommerswerd forever on Book 5 by simply not finding it again after your inevitable capture in the first half of the book. The Sommerswerd can also be permanently lost in a later book under similar circumstances - Castle Death, if memory serves.

Memory serves correctly.

I'm currently re-reading the whole lot from the beginning, and luckily managed to recover it both times.

[doomwolf]

Guest-Vassagonian said:

Yet venturing Magnakai Quest (at least the initial book 6-8) without Sommerswerd might prove a real drag to beginners;low CS,not enough discipline,yet to complete the lore circles,etc....So,what do you think?

Don't forget that The Jungle of Horrors is near-as-darnit impossible without the Sommerswerd. See Project Aon's footnotes about the fight at the end, remembering that the brutal time limit does not apply if you have the golden-sword-of-justice.

[BenKenobi]

It can be possible that you can LOSE the Sommerswerd under some rock or column that falls because of the powers of Death Stone... I don't agree with the errata corrige of Project Aon this time.
The power to sense where is your weapon, if you lose it, is a feature for Grand Masters, seems to me... it happens during the New Order adventures.

[Relenoir]

Sensing your weapon, yes. Sensing an artifact-level magical sword under some rock and dirt? Probably Sixth Sense, maybe not until Divination.

[Frying Pan]

Holmes said:

Possible spoilers concerning Book 5: Shadow on the Sand:






At the end of Book 5, in the battle against Haakon, there is a choice of retrieving the Sommerswerd, which has just been blasted from your hand by his Doomstone, or running for cover. If you do not immediately retrieve the Sommerswerd, you can potentially defeat Haakon without combat, turning his Doomstone against him.

My question is: if you do not retrieve the Sommerswerd, and go the other route, is it safe to assume that you retrieve the Sommerswerd after the combat?

The book doesn't say either way, and it does note that much of the ceiling collapses with his second bolt (easily to conceive that this might bury the Sommerswerd)

If Indiana Jones manages to save his hat from beneath a closing door in the Temple of Doom, you can be certain that Lone Wolf with all his Kai disciplines will be sure to pick up his favourite sword from off the floor before getting out of any collapsing dungeons.

Unless you picked the Kai Discipline: Absentmindedness, in which case you should leave your Sommerswerd, Backpack, and three randomly selected Special Items in the Tomb of Majhan, as well as the keys to your frigging skyship.

[Zipp]

Woot to that. Indiana Jones proves it once and for all

[Relenoir]

Yeah, that was a great way of putting it! ;D

[Sol]

Lemme explain one thing:

If I was Lone Wolf and Haakon was dead, and the Sommerswerd was buried, I would friggin dig it out with or without the benefit of Sixth Sense. I mean, it is a friggin +8 man! If Lone Wolf can spend THREE YEARS reading the Book of the Magnakai, I think he would be willing to spend as long as necessary to recover this all-important Kai Treasure, especially since he knows exactly where it is (he just dropped it!)

Seriously, yo

[Nathan P. Mahney]

Aha, but the place is crawling with Giaks and Drakkarim, is it not? It would be in the interests of a 'swerd-less Lone Wolf to get the hell out of there. Returning later to retrieve the Sommerswerd probably isn't an option, as Zakhan Kimah isn't exactly a Kai-friendly ruler. Perhaps he digs the Sommerswerd out himself, and puts it on display in his Trophy Room?

[North Star]

And yet it is assumed that you may well have the Sommerswerd three years later in Book 6...
Also, there is the distinct possibility you will have with you in Tahou vs. Zakhan Kimah.

Arakhor.

[Sol]

North said:

And yet it is assumed that you may well have the Sommerswerd three years later in Book 6...
Also, there is the distinct possibility you will have with you in Tahou vs. Zakhan Kimah.

Arakhor.

North Star,

Is it assumed? Do tell where!

Sol