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Post by Abobo on Jul 5, 2004 6:05:46 GMT
Hello, I recently found out that there are others who like Lone Wolf. I also heard that were a lot of of books that are hard to find. My first introduction to Lone Wolf were the novels and even though I have the first 5 I heard that there are more. I already have more than 12 of the game books and all 4 Greystar(sp?) books.
The novels were my favorite. Are there more? Are they as good as the first 5? Any information would be appreciated.
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Post by Sarra on Jul 6, 2004 3:52:09 GMT
I am currently reading book 5 right now so I can't tell you if the others are better. Other members of this site prolly won't give them a good rep though.
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Jul 6, 2004 13:30:26 GMT
Sounds like you have the US versions (the original third book was split into US books 3 & 4). There are eight more novels continuing the series, none of which were published in the US. You can download them (for a fee) at John Grant's website: www.hometown.aol.com/thogatthog/
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Post by Relenoir on Jul 12, 2004 0:40:02 GMT
I am currently reading book 5 right now so I can't tell you if the others are better. Other members of this site prolly won't give them a good rep though. Ouch! That hurts! Well, except for certain low points in the middle of the series (i.e. U.K. books 5, 6, and 7), and a couple of annoying characters whose names I will not utter here, they were pretty good. I'm reading #10 right now, and I think it's everything the LW novels should have been all along!
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Post by outspaced on Jul 12, 2004 7:59:39 GMT
I'm reading #10 right now, and I think it's everything the LW novels should have been all along! Didn't I tell you? Didn't I? Oh ye of little faith . . . I don't think I could ever bring myself to read books 5-7 ever again, however. Painfully bad.
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Post by darktalon on Jul 22, 2004 12:35:02 GMT
Would it be possible for somebody to summarise the plot of the Legends books, like they did with the New Order books on the other thread? I've got 1 and 2, and I'm wondering about the others. Especially wondering what it is about 5-7 that inspires such horror.
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Post by outspaced on Jul 22, 2004 13:17:05 GMT
Would it be possible for somebody to summarise the plot of the Legends books, like they did with the New Order books on the other thread? I've got 1 and 2, and I'm wondering about the others. Especially wondering what it is about 5-7 that inspires such horror. I'm sure some kind soul will do a better job than me, but as a very brief resume (spoilers abound, so beware!): Book 3: The Sword of the SunFollows the plot of Fire on the Water. Book 4: Hunting WolfFollows the plot of The Caverns of Kalte. Book 5: The Claws of HelgedadAllegedly shows the 'behind the scenes' struggle for supremacy in Helgedad. Sub-plot follows Alyss for no reason. Lone Wolf does nothing (no exaggeration). Book 6: The Sacrifice of RuanonButchers the gamebook The Chasm of Doom. Lone Wolf remains useless. Unlikeable new character. The Prophecy of Maakengorge altered to allow Grant/Barnett's ANCs (Annoying New Character) to save the world while Lone Wolf minces around like an imbecile. Unreadable epilogue that Joe Dever considers to be the 'worst thing in any Lone Wolf book' indicating a (thoroughly non-canonical) technological future for Magnamund. Book 7: The BirthplaceFollows the first half of Shadow on the Sand. Also follows Q****** and her sticking colours (don't ask) as she annoys the reader by taking centre-stage for no reason whatsoever. Book 8: The Book of the MagnakaiThe second half of Shadow on the Sand. Q****** has gone (yay!) but Lone Wolf is still acting as though he were touched by both the 'Useless Stick' and the 'Immaturity Staff' as a child. Banedon is unlikeably smug. Book 9: The TellingsA series of 4 short stories fleshing out some of the characters, told over campfires whilst Lone Wolf is deciphering the Book of the Magnakai. Viveka's story tells of her early years and how she got her scar. Banedon's story tells of his journey to Dessi and his 'fight' with the Gagadoth. Lone Wolf's story (the most interesting of the lot) tells of how the Book of the Magnakai came to be lost in the first place. Carag's story (*yawn*) tells of Gnaag's accession to the throne of Helgedad. Book 10: The Lorestone of VarettaFollows The Kingdoms of Terror and does a [darn] good job of it. Book 11: The Secret of Kazan-OudFollows Castle Death. A returning ANC annoys the reader, Zhada is portrayed sympathetically, but the Elder Magi aren't. The author obviously can't make up his mind what story he's supposed to be telling. Book 12: The Rotting LandFollows The Jungle of Horrors. Paido is smug (but gets his comeuppance, which is fair). Lone Wolf gets a new bit on the side who, while less annoying than Q****** is still stupidly anachronistic with regards to the Magnakai plot, and the future of Magnamund. Well, that's vented a bit of bile. Hope it helps!
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Post by darktalon on Jul 22, 2004 13:28:21 GMT
Thanks. What's this about a technological future? I've heard it mentioned before, never in a positive light, and I'm intrigued. Call it a sort of morbid train wreck fascination if you will.
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Post by Relenoir on Jul 23, 2004 2:12:32 GMT
What's this about a technological future? I've heard it mentioned before, never in a positive light, and I'm intrigued. Call it a sort of morbid train wreck fascination if you will. If you really want to know: *SPOILER ALERT* There are a lot of references to things like filling stations, tape recorders, books with a picture of the author, word processors, and algebra. The chapter goes on to say that the book has been written by a professor who heard the story from a cave hermit named Sylas who claims he was observing when it happened. Of course, Sylas is just an anagram for Alyss in disguise, and the story finishes with poor insane Madelon having thrown herself from the castle two years after her rescue, about 300 years before the "author" retells it. Of course, the true "spoiler" here is the fact that it was written this way in the first place.
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Post by outspaced on Jul 23, 2004 12:26:21 GMT
Rel, you forgot the horrors of the 'Crystal Star Freight Company' (or whatever it was called). *shudders*
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Post by Relenoir on Jul 24, 2004 1:52:32 GMT
Rel, you forgot the horrors of the 'Crystal Star Freight Company' (or whatever it was called). *shudders* Well excuuuuuuuuse me! Actually, I think that was the gas station attendant; another extremely poor reference to the Magnamund we know and love, and the author obviously doesn't know nor love.
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Post by darktalon on Jul 24, 2004 23:38:50 GMT
All I can say is: bloody hell I'm not against fantasy worlds having technological futures in general, but it doesn't fit Magnamund especially since Joe Dever has disowned it. Though to get pedantic for a second, algebra was invented in the Middle Ages so probably isn't beyond the canonical technological level of Magnamund.
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Post by North Star on Aug 5, 2004 11:13:51 GMT
Maybe I'm completely missing the point, but I thought the techo-epilogue was actually fun. It was a bit weird certainly, and didn't explain what had happened to the Kai, magic, the monsters etc., but it made perfect sense according to the book. Incidentally, I *hated* The Birthplace NS.
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Post by North Star on Aug 5, 2004 11:21:45 GMT
I hate to bring this all up again (*has looked at backposts*), but I'm confused. If Alyss is this super-irritating non-Dever creation, why does she show up in Curse of Naar, protecting the Moonstone from Naar Himself? (And getting buttwhipped by Naar and Kekataag incidentally... NS.
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Aug 5, 2004 14:08:19 GMT
Highlight for spoilers.
Dever incorporated Alyss into Books 16, 19, and 20. It's possible he was trying to reconcile Legends with the gamebooks.
16 was only a cameo, but 19 served as a lead-in to 20.
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