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Post by Zipp on Mar 17, 2005 18:51:44 GMT
Tche! And you guys call yourselves gamebook fans! OK, a clue: it's in a book written and published before Jackson embarked upon the Sorcery series. That narrows it down considerably. I'd also hazard a guess that a lot of people on this forum will have read the book--Zipp certainly has! That must mean it's from one of the Fighting Fantasy, cause those are the only other ones by Jackson I've read. And you know, I think I do know, somewhere in my mind, because bells are ringing all over the place. But I never finished Deathtrap Dungeon, nor Creature of Havoc (though I really want to) and so it may just be a false alarm. I'll think about it.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 17, 2005 21:36:52 GMT
But I never finished Deathtrap Dungeon . . . which is by Ian Livingstone, not Steve Jackson, so that's off the list.
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Post by andyr on Mar 17, 2005 22:18:27 GMT
That was obscure... Steve Jackson penned very few gamebooks (only 5 if you take off Sorcery!) but the detail is devious, you don't get the character, just a reference to him.
It is Citadel of Chaos, Glaz-Doz-Fut. When you stumble in the gaming room, the gambling critters confound you with him and you can play some deadly games... and deadly indeed, this path ensures your utter failure at the mission, so this knowledge was really expensive to come by!
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Post by Zipp on Mar 17, 2005 22:54:27 GMT
Ah right! This is the path that doesn't allow you to get one of the items needed near the end, correct?
That was where I died my very first trip into the Citadel. So sad. I has rolled the max scoresd for EVERYTHING. I was awesomely stated. I also had no idea that there was "one true path" and so I guess I was screwed anyways...
But I reached the room with the gamblers and laugh as they offer me a choice of games. Sure, I'll try it out. Then I find out they are playing Russian Roulete with daggers to the heart. Obviously there's some anti-gambling sentiments here.
Well, my good Outspaced, we await your confirmation of the answer. I believe you were right, Andyr, so start preparing a question.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 17, 2005 23:48:41 GMT
Well done, andyr! Excellently deduced. In case anyone wants to query it, the answer is found in The Citadel of Chaos Section 52. Upon entering the 'casino' someone shouts out: "This must be Glaz-Doz-Fut". Despite not being on the 'one-true-path', I hope it wasn't too obscure! Look forward to your question, andyr. Zipp: (quoted directly from Titan--The Fighting Fantasy World: ) " Knifey Knifey . . . Six identical daggers lie on a table; one is real while the other five have retractable blades which will do no harm. In turn, each player selects a dagger and quickly stabs himself in the chest with it. If it is a fake, it is returned to the table, shuffled together with the others, and the game continues; if it is real, death for the unfortunate player is certain. The game continues until only one player survives. This is a very exciting game to watch, but not to play. (Knifey Knifey experts are few and far between, but usually very, very rich.)" ;D
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Post by andyr on Mar 18, 2005 6:50:59 GMT
Ok, the LW question from peregrine was still pending. I answered a FF query, so I'll give another FF one.
This can be hard or easy, according to your FF tastes...
In which FF book you can meet a character you have incarnated in another gamebook? And I mean "meet", in book X you assume the role of a guy and at some time you run into another character whose identity you assumed in another gamebook of the series. Gameboos in which you play the same character (as LW) don't count, neither those in which you can stumble upon the carcass of your previous (deceased) incarnation, like Soloquest.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 18, 2005 10:47:32 GMT
So I guess the New Order series when you interact with Lone Wolf is out, eh? No idea, didn't read many of the Fighting Fantasy books.
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Post by andyr on Mar 18, 2005 11:19:36 GMT
Yep. Lone Wolf in NO would qualify, I mean exactly that, but in FF (and is only between 2 books, another clue). Just felt to throw in a FF query, as my answer was also a FF one...
For LW, I would get a bit more devious, but maybe it's quite easy... something like:
what are the two names (place names, not persons') which show that two apparent unrelated (as per the ethnic charts in MC) nations do in fact share some language affinities?
That's a treat question for those outside the FF interest...
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Post by Doomy on Mar 18, 2005 11:42:47 GMT
My guess is that the answer relates to Sallazar, who you can play as in FF54: Legend of Zagor and meet in FF spinoff Casket of Souls. For anyone who does not know Casket it was a large glossy book with several big illustrations. The game element involved studying these paintings to find clues which would help you solve puzzles.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 18, 2005 12:01:19 GMT
Doomy: Good guess, but I'm fairly sure you're wrong. The criteria andyr set down is that you play a character one one book and then meet that character while playing a second character in another book. You don't play as Sallazar in Casket of Souls. Andyr--I like the question, it's a good'un! I know the answer, but I'm not going to ruin it. ;D [Edit: Ah, just saw your "bonus" LW question. That's a tricky one. I think I might know where you're coming from . . . but then again, I might not.]
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 18, 2005 12:43:06 GMT
Thanks for thinking about us non-FF readers. My guess is. . . well, I thought I knew, but after checking my book I'm not sure. I was going to say Vassagonia and Shadaki, but they are connected in the map. I'll have to think on this.
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Post by Doomy on Mar 18, 2005 12:46:07 GMT
So I'm wrong 'cos Casket came out before Zagor? Or is it because Casket is not a FF book per se? The original question does say "another book of the series" and although Casket was written by Ian Livingstone and set on Titan it isn't exactly a "proper" Fighting Fantasy book. Apart from that I'm drawing a blank on this one. It's very rare for you to play a named character in the FF books, and I'm sure I'd recall bumping into a guy dressed in leather armour, carrying a sword and backpack and answering to the name of "YOU".
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Post by outspaced on Mar 18, 2005 12:52:18 GMT
So I'm wrong 'cos Casket came out before Zagor? Or is it because Casket is not a FF book per se? The fact that CoS is not actually a FF book is the reason from the way the question was posed. Actually, I see where you're coming from now. Damn, Doomy, that's a clever answer! Consider me chastened by your lateral intellect! Because I know the answer, I was thinking . . . actually, I'll PM you rather than add any more spoilers. (Edit: CoS is not set on Titan, BTW, but on Amarillia, a completely separate world. I actually own a copy of CoS and it's another "Quest" book I have no clue how to "complete". What is the stupid spell supposed to be??)
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Post by Doomy on Mar 18, 2005 13:07:07 GMT
Oh, OK. I didn't realise that Amarillia was an entirely different planet rather than a little-known part of Titan, since Sallazar obviously gets involved with Zagor and Firetop Mountain. But being a wizard I guess he can travel to other worlds if he likes!
Guess I should have said that Casket is set in the FF universe, rather than "on Titan".
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Post by Ghost Bear on Mar 18, 2005 13:16:52 GMT
Actually it's the other way around. Zagor is banished to Amarilla from Titan.
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