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Post by Dave on Mar 21, 2008 19:45:24 GMT
Hi, I've got a question about the image on the first page of the PA site (after you select "English"). It's the black wolf head with "inkspots" and lines through it. Isn't that image from the Ksatria game/site? As such, does Project Aon have permission to use the image? I'm only curious because I have created a bunch of icons based on the various Lone Wolf logos used from various publications, but I haven't distributed any of them with my program(I only include the one of the PA symbol), based on my belief that PA had no permissions to use any such symbols.
When I saw that fredc's program used the new Ksatria logo, I wondered if maybe I could distribute the icon based on it with my program...
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 21, 2008 22:21:22 GMT
Isn't that image from the Ksatria game/site? Nope: it's the logo of Lone Wolf, the character, use to identify any product that is related to it. It's the logo that we see already on the Mongoose gamebooks. Back in 2006, when JD announced the republication of the series and the creation of the video game, he also stated that a new logo was going to be created that would be the same for all these products. Someone will surely come and make an official statement about this, but I seriously doubt that JD talked to Jon Blake and said: "Hey, you have the rights to publish for free on the web everything that I have created EXCEPT that logo".
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Post by outspaced on Mar 22, 2008 2:09:12 GMT
Actually, Joe contacted Project Aon and requested that we use the official logo so that 'all official Lone Wolf materials are branded the same way'. Since Project Aon is officially endorsed by Joe Dever, we fall under the umbrella category of "official material", and therefore software readers for the Lone Wolf series as published/released on the Project Aon server would also fall under the same header. Generally speaking, Project Aon would encourage developers of reader software to use the latest Mongoose logo in their work rather than older logos related to editions no longer in print. There's no hard and fast rule, but it would help bring a level of "unity" to Project Aon/all official releases.
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Post by Dave on Mar 23, 2008 4:53:52 GMT
... but I seriously doubt that JD talked to Jon Blake and said: "Hey, you have the rights to publish for free on the web everything that I have created EXCEPT that logo". Did he himself actually create it? Did he also create any of the others that have been used on the books? I'm not trying to be difficult, though I can tell that I sound like it - Ah, the perils of text-only communication! Like I said, I've got some nifty icons that I made out of the various Lone Wolf logos, and I'd love to be able to distribute them, but as I've never seen them used in any of the publications of Project Aon, I thought that PA had not been given rights to use those images (they aren't necessarily the work of the illustrators for the books.) I don't remember distinctly, but I think Jonathan Blake said something to me about how PA had not gotten rights to those images, and that's why I removed them from my program package... (And thanks for letting me know about the new LW logo - seems that at least that one is okay to use as an icon for a Lone Wolf game.)
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Post by Dave on Jun 25, 2008 23:00:07 GMT
Here are those icons I was talking about, plus a few made from the design mckinstry made with his original logo design. These pics are of the 48x48 size, and the inset (bottom rights) are the 32x32 size. Each of the icons actually have the following available size(16x16, 24x24, 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, 128x128, and the last three have 256x256) Two of the last three switch from having text at 48x48 to no text at 32x32, as it becomes barely legible at that size. All of course are alpha blended for highest quality appearance on any background/desktop image, and also incorporate various bit depths, for older computers not running in 32-bit color mode. Opinions? My favorite is the last one (bottom right). Also, do you think it would be okay to simply include all of these icons with the Seventh Sense program, for users to select which icon they'd like to have for their shortcuts, etc.?
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Post by majestic on Jun 26, 2008 3:52:06 GMT
I'm in favor of lw2 or lw3 as they are the official logos. Maybe you can set lw3 as the default and allow the user to pick the others as an option?
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Post by Thomas Wolmer on Jun 29, 2008 20:30:26 GMT
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Post by mckinstry on Jul 2, 2008 9:31:56 GMT
I like the idea of letting the user choose which era of the Lone Wolf identity they want to use. The only problem is if the interface has been designed around a certain style making older logos look out of place.
Unless of course you had skins for each style ;D
Say a cool retro interface for the original logos - much like what the program currently has actually, and a newer interface for my style of logos.
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Post by alderaine on Jul 25, 2008 15:55:42 GMT
Following a recent thread on the volunteer mailing list, just to confirm that AON does not currently have the authority to allow the use of official logos in any product which is not hosted by AON. As long as AON is the host, the logos may (and in fact, should) be used.
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Post by Dave on Jul 26, 2008 16:28:27 GMT
Hello all, Here is a link where you can download several of the icons I made using the PA logo and LW logos. If you wish to, you are more than welcome to use these icons. However, please respect the copyright and the Project Aon license involved with using these logos - this means you can not use them in any project except those which are hosted directly on the Project Aon site. (Well, you can use them for personal use, just as the PA license suggests, which could involve working on a project that will eventually be hosted on the PA site). Okay, important legal issues aside, enjoy!
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Post by Dave on Aug 7, 2008 19:01:03 GMT
Stupid image hosting nixed my pic of the icons. I guess now that I have PA webspace, I can host the pics there... I'll upload the pic shortly.
Edit: done!
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