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Post by altwren on Jul 30, 2010 1:59:36 GMT
I'm on Book 12 now and I was on the Intrepid getting beat up by this big serpent monster that what eating my boat and shrugging off my arrows and I finally get into combat with the thing I find out it's a 10/10? I've fought tougher opponents in caves under Sommerlund back in Book 1. I mean, I know I'm not supposed to use the Sommerswerd in this book, but after the Chaos Master, that crazy dog guy and the guy from book 9, I was expecting a little more.
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Post by torben on Jul 30, 2010 6:03:14 GMT
It is probably a spelling mistake in the book and should read 10/100. Note that the Xargath has 100 EP and high CS when you fight it under other circumstances - in the situation of CS 10, its head is trapped, and the main risk for LW is to fall of the back of the wriggling beast as he saws through its neck.
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Post by outspaced on Jul 30, 2010 16:22:03 GMT
What section number are we talking about here?
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Post by altwren on Jul 30, 2010 17:27:48 GMT
Book 12 - Section 35
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Post by outspaced on Jul 30, 2010 18:40:18 GMT
Ah! Cheers. I've raised the issue on the Errata Page for The Masters of Darkness. |
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Post by altwren on Jul 31, 2010 3:52:39 GMT
My new Mongoose set just came in the mail today. I checked there and it's still 10/10. Weird... Welp, what's the result table for a +46 combat ratio? j/k
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Post by kolinovic on Jul 31, 2010 11:46:10 GMT
Well, given that his head is lodged under the mast at the time, you could argue that it's quite an easy kill, hence the reduced EP...
(the fact that this never happens again in the LW series does argue against me somewhat, though)
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Post by kai on Jan 13, 2019 16:37:25 GMT
Personally, the thing is a giant, scaly, deadly, awesome sea monster. Ep 10? That's a joke. The fact is, it doesn't seemed wounded with its head jammed in the deck, so it has an ep of 100. And, like, who cares? Either way, it has a logical cs of 10, since it can't really fight back. I always fight it with 10/100 because it just doesn't make any sense. And, 10 cs is easy to beat.
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Post by Lucy Van Pelt on Jan 16, 2019 10:17:41 GMT
I'm on Book 12 now and I was on the Intrepid getting beat up by this big serpent monster that what eating my boat and shrugging off my arrows and I finally get into combat with the thing I find out it's a 10/10? I've fought tougher opponents in caves under Sommerlund back in Book 1. I mean, I know I'm not supposed to use the Sommerswerd in this book, but after the Chaos Master, that crazy dog guy and the guy from book 9, I was expecting a little more. U can use sommerswerd until u enter the fortress. |
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Post by bravestar on Jan 17, 2019 18:48:29 GMT
As I've mentioned in the Healing Potions thread I tend to view EP as being the same sort of abstraction that AD&D 1st edition Hit Points were (combination of physical resilience, stamina/resistance to exhaustion, training, luck, other factors, etc.) so there's different ways you could play it out. a 'low' EP could represent little to no evasion on the part of the Xargath, with LW in an optimal position to strike a mortal blow, for example. (Contextually we know the bow and arrow fired into the ear was an insta-kill. The ears and spine were deliberately targeted whilst it was tangled in the wreckage, so there's always a chance of an 'insta-kill' that way as well.)
TBF I can see 'error' being just as valid an excuse. And Project Aon's rationalization (making combat too easy) is also fair. But there's enough variation and oddity in how book combats are set up (see Shadow Reaver combat discussion from Book 11) that I wouldn't totally discount this being intentional, barring some explicit and sourced statement from an authority on whether it was or wasn't.
One possibility: How did Mongoose handle the depiction of the combat? I recall they've made various changes in the books, so their version of Book 12 may be a reference point.
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Post by norshire on Sept 17, 2020 22:35:08 GMT
Personally, the thing is a giant, scaly, deadly, awesome sea monster. Ep 10? That's a joke. The fact is, it doesn't seemed wounded with its head jammed in the deck, so it has an ep of 100. And, like, who cares? Either way, it has a logical cs of 10, since it can't really fight back. I always fight it with 10/100 because it just doesn't make any sense. And, 10 cs is easy to beat. Try doing Book 12 with a fresh start character at 10 CS. Then it becomes a different sort of joke at 10/100! |
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Post by johntfs on Oct 12, 2020 19:07:43 GMT
My new Mongoose set just came in the mail today. I checked there and it's still 10/10. Weird... Welp, what's the result table for a +46 combat ratio? j/k The Xargath is not 10/10. The Xargath's head which is currently stuck in the ship's deck allowing LW to easily kill it is 10/10. AKA what kolvinic just said. |
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