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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 14, 2014 8:45:58 GMT
Hi,
I checked the Seventh Sense Hall of Fame and saw this one:
"Kamikaze Thompson
Hardcore Kai + Magnakai(1-12)
5/15
CamouflageTrackingMindshieldAnimal KinshipMind over Matter
June 10, 2012"
I don't understand it? anyone who played book 11 knows it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat Chaos Master/The fights after.. and then the 2 last fights... even if you have 25/40 to start with you die every time, and there is no path around those fight... you have to fight them. a character with CS5/EP15 even if with Oede/Alether/Good weapons you will always lose because you will always roll on the -11 table, and you must role like 0 all the time, not possible,
Or was this run in a specific mode? it is for sure not by the book.
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Post by Dave on Jan 14, 2014 15:38:10 GMT
It was a hardcore run (hence only those five disciplines).
Also, notice the conspicuous lack of any CS-boosting skills (Like Mindblast or Weaponskill), and the even more conspicuous lack of Healing.
And even though it was not a no-death run, the insane part is that it *almost* was! He actually managed to complete books 1-11 without dying at all (Yes, against the Chaos Master, with 1 EP left - there were a *lot* of such close calls.) It wasn't until Book 12's Kraagenskul fight that he died for the 1st time.
Basically, Kamikaze is a living legend. He knows these books *very well* and can pick the most advantageous path for any combination of disciplines... Combined with more than his fair share of luck, that knowledge allows him to do things the rest of us can only dream about!
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Post by t0pel on Jan 14, 2014 23:29:09 GMT
So he rolled straight zeros? :-D
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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 15, 2014 8:31:16 GMT
So he rolled straight zeros? :-D Yes that is a must, even if you roll ONLY 9s with -11 you cannot beat all those, not even if you stack Oede and all those. Maybe played an early version of Seventh Sense that had some sort of bug.. if you manage to get your CS to under 0 or minus the programming get you to CS100/99 instead  I know old DOS games where you increased over a specific value/integer it go around and do the opposite |
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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 15, 2014 8:38:59 GMT
It was a hardcore run (hence only those five disciplines). Also, notice the conspicuous lack of any CS-boosting skills (Like Mindblast or Weaponskill), and the even more conspicuous lack of Healing. And even though it was not a no-death run, the insane part is that it *almost* was! He actually managed to complete books 1-11 without dying at all (Yes, against the Chaos Master, with 1 EP left - there were a *lot* of such close calls.) It wasn't until Book 12's Kraagenskul fight that he died for the 1st time. Basically, Kamikaze is a living legend. He knows these books *very well* and can pick the most advantageous path for any combination of disciplines... Combined with more than his fair share of luck, that knowledge allows him to do things the rest of us can only dream about! Thanks for explaining Dave, It is clear Kamikaze knows things we other doesn't know, see all the fantastic Awards he found, but I still have problem to see how book 11 it is possible. You have Chaos Master and then even if 1 EP you got at least one fight after that is hard, then you restore all your EP and then get to fight the 5 Sommerlunds villain and then Vonotar himself, two fights you need to roll probably half 9 and then half 0. I see he uses a skill I never take, that is Pathmanship, maybe that skill hides something that I don't know about Is it possible to get to see his path in the book 11 and see the rolls he had to do to finish it? should probably ask him right? I managed with CS10 (and million of deaths, of course using Curing, Psi-surge/weaponmastery etc.. all that can boost CS) reach book 11, but in Book 11 I cannot even win the first fight (you can skip that one if you took the right skill which I didn't). I must roll maybe 50 '0' in the battles my character is up to.. to finish book 11. |
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Post by Dave on Jan 15, 2014 16:13:08 GMT
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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 15, 2014 20:36:39 GMT
It is incredible, but it is bigger chance to win book 11 with 5/15 stats than anyone of us getting born (considering that our mother/fathers must had met, and their fathers/mother etc..) so it can happen.. well hat off for Kamikaze. I have missed this thread, it is fun he share his thoughts... would had loved to see the paths he used through the books. |
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Post by rmsgrey on Jan 17, 2014 0:32:11 GMT
It is incredible, but it is bigger chance to win book 11 with 5/15 stats than anyone of us getting born (considering that our mother/fathers must had met, and their fathers/mother etc..) so it can happen.. well hat off for Kamikaze. I have missed this thread, it is fun he share his thoughts... would had loved to see the paths he used through the books. Never mind parents meeting, etc - just getting a particular set of chromosomes from your parents (ignoring the mix-and-match going on with recombination) is around one in a hundred trillion - when you throw in that you don't just have a choice between chromosome A and chromosome B from each pair, but you can end up with, for example, 2/3 A and 1/3 B... And, of course, you aren't just a product of your genes - everything that happened to you your entire life also contributed to making you the person who's reading this right now. Fantastically unlikely things happen all the time - we just group them together with vast numbers of things that didn't happen and say that that entire class of events was collectively likely - it's the difference between finding a piece of hay in a haystack and finding a specific piece of hay in a haystack, only much more so. Not that that takes away from managing an almost-no-death run like that... |
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I know old DOS games where you increased over a specific value/integer it go around and do the opposite 