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Post by Nym90 on Dec 22, 2017 21:46:49 GMT
Has the money bug been fixed yet? I experienced it just yesterday and am using the newest version.
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 22, 2017 21:49:11 GMT
Yes. I never made a bug fix release but it's fixed here.
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Post by Nym90 on Dec 22, 2017 21:55:14 GMT
Ok, thanks. I will try downloading/reinstalling again tonight.
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Post by tycho on Dec 23, 2017 0:20:12 GMT
previous version (book 19 release): book 18, section 110: you need to eat, I have no meal, all options greyed out, can't progress. book 19, section 37: I have no SS, no Alchemy, have Weaponmastery but low rank, have bladed weapon. All options are greyed out. I have to discard my bladed weapon to continue. new version: book 20: Deliverance doesn't heal on non-combat sections at all! Is this some kind of new (hardcore) feature? This was in prodigy and btb. Pretty cruel for fresh start  book 20, prodigy: prodigy is probably not a priority right now, but Skarn-Ska doesn't add +5 CS in prodigy. And thank you very much you fixed the critical section in book 18 with the Lavas, now I was finally able to get the fresh start award! |
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 23, 2017 0:47:55 GMT
previous version (book 19 release): book 18, section 110: you need to eat, I have no meal, all options greyed out, can't progress. book 19, section 37: I have no SS, no Alchemy, have Weaponmastery but low rank, have bladed weapon. All options are greyed out. I have to discard my bladed weapon to continue. new version: book 20: Deliverance doesn't heal on non-combat sections at all! Is this some kind of new (hardcore) feature? This was in prodigy and btb. Pretty cruel for fresh start book 20, prodigy: prodigy is probably not a priority right now, but Skarn-Ska doesn't add +5 CS in prodigy. And thank you very much you fixed the critical section in book 18 with the Lavas, now I was finally able to get the fresh start award! Thanks as always for the bug reports. All fixed but.... you are saying Deliverance *did* heal on By-The-Book or Hardcore before, fresh start? Then it should not have done that, in fact! If it does *not* heal on Prodigy though, fresh start or no, that *is* a bug. |
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Post by tycho on Dec 23, 2017 1:18:43 GMT
Deliverance does heal on prodigy. It does not on btb. I didn't test prodigy further, because without Skarn-Ska +5 CS I wouldn't stand a chance on fresh start. And I can't seem to select hardcore on fresh start, though I guess that's intended, that hardcore can only be selected at a series start.
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 23, 2017 15:16:51 GMT
Deliverance does heal on prodigy. It does not on btb. I didn't test prodigy further, because without Skarn-Ska +5 CS I wouldn't stand a chance on fresh start. And I can't seem to select hardcore on fresh start, though I guess that's intended, that hardcore can only be selected at a series start. Working as intended then. |
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Post by gotha2981 on Dec 26, 2017 11:55:28 GMT
Hi UrQuan, can you please look at this one?
I had died at book 22 (but at least I got the 'Foolish Follower of Kai' award, lol), and wanted to restart a campaign from book 13.
I had not downloaded that book though, so I got the message and it let me download the zip first, but then when I wanted to start, the program crashed.
I am using v1.23.6
P.S.: When I restarted Seventh Sense, it is working though, if I select book 13. But is it normal that I can only choose "by-the-book" and the other playing modes are greyed out?
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 26, 2017 17:34:18 GMT
Hi UrQuan, can you please look at this one? I had died at book 22 (but at least I got the 'Foolish Follower of Kai' award, lol), and wanted to restart a campaign from book 13. I had not downloaded that book though, so I got the message and it let me download the zip first, but then when I wanted to start, the program crashed. I am using v1.23.6 P.S.: When I restarted Seventh Sense, it is working though, if I select book 13. But is it normal that I can only choose "by-the-book" and the other playing modes are greyed out? I had found that bug myself actually, was only low priority to fix since it still works on restart. Seems to have been in vanilla Seventh Sense. Thanks for the report still! Hardcore you can only start on Book 1 or Book 21 nowadays (will make sense once the Hardcore updates hit). Prodigy is locked for new accounts (need one series award). Will update the tooltips to this effect once I have time. By the way, if you are starting a new campaign: The Grand Master series is impossible if starting from Book 13, since you are without healing. One up-coming feature is being able to start with a pre-made "legacy" character from there. That should come within the next several weeks, but otherwise you should start from Book 1. |
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Post by gotha2981 on Dec 27, 2017 15:19:58 GMT
Hi UrQuan, can you please look at this one? I had died at book 22 (but at least I got the 'Foolish Follower of Kai' award, lol), and wanted to restart a campaign from book 13. I had not downloaded that book though, so I got the message and it let me download the zip first, but then when I wanted to start, the program crashed. I am using v1.23.6 P.S.: When I restarted Seventh Sense, it is working though, if I select book 13. But is it normal that I can only choose "by-the-book" and the other playing modes are greyed out? I had found that bug myself actually, was only low priority to fix since it still works on restart. Seems to have been in vanilla Seventh Sense. Thanks for the report still! Hardcore you can only start on Book 1 or Book 21 nowadays (will make sense once the Hardcore updates hit). Prodigy is locked for new accounts (need one series award). Will update the tooltips to this effect once I have time. By the way, if you are starting a new campaign: The Grand Master series is impossible if starting from Book 13, since you are without healing. One up-coming feature is being able to start with a pre-made "legacy" character from there. That should come within the next several weeks, but otherwise you should start from Book 1. Thank you very much for the explanations. I agree that if someone starts from book 13, he should have somehow the chance to succeed... looking forward to that update! Another thing I would like to highlight: probably it is not a bug, but linked to the game mechanics (maybe it has been discussed somewhere else in the forums, but I could not find the topics). In book 13, chapter 329, you are supposed to lose two backpack items (the first and the third), but if you have only two, you only lose one (the first), as you have nothing in third position. Isn't it a bit contradictory? There is also chapter 63 with the same indications - I could not try because I had no items left, but I imagine the same thing would happen (you should lose two items, second and fourth, but if you have less than four probably you would not lose two). |
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 27, 2017 15:51:56 GMT
I had found that bug myself actually, was only low priority to fix since it still works on restart. Seems to have been in vanilla Seventh Sense. Thanks for the report still! Hardcore you can only start on Book 1 or Book 21 nowadays (will make sense once the Hardcore updates hit). Prodigy is locked for new accounts (need one series award). Will update the tooltips to this effect once I have time. By the way, if you are starting a new campaign: The Grand Master series is impossible if starting from Book 13, since you are without healing. One up-coming feature is being able to start with a pre-made "legacy" character from there. That should come within the next several weeks, but otherwise you should start from Book 1. Thank you very much for the explanations. I agree that if someone starts from book 13, he should have somehow the chance to succeed... looking forward to that update! Another thing I would like to highlight: probably it is not a bug, but linked to the game mechanics (maybe it has been discussed somewhere else in the forums, but I could not find the topics). In book 13, chapter 329, you are supposed to lose two backpack items (the first and the third), but if you have only two, you only lose one (the first), as you have nothing in third position. Isn't it a bit contradictory? There is also chapter 63 with the same indications - I could not try because I had no items left, but I imagine the same thing would happen (you should lose two items, second and fourth, but if you have less than four probably you would not lose two). Indeed that's deliberate, though it is not exactly clear what is meant. |
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Post by Nym90 on Dec 27, 2017 17:06:57 GMT
One easy way to make the GM series survivable for a new character would be to allow the benefit of Healing by choosing Deliverance as one of your disciplines. While it's true that the GM rules for Deliverance don't mention this benefit at all, it seems illogical that having Deliverance wouldn't give you all the benefits of Healing. Every other discipline gives all benefits of a lesser version if you have the more advanced version.
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Post by UrQuan on Dec 27, 2017 21:31:37 GMT
One easy way to make the GM series survivable for a new character would be to allow the benefit of Healing by choosing Deliverance as one of your disciplines. While it's true that the GM rules for Deliverance don't mention this benefit at all, it seems illogical that having Deliverance wouldn't give you all the benefits of Healing. Every other discipline gives all benefits of a lesser version if you have the more advanced version. That's an easy way, but doesn't fully solve the problem with the Grand Master series. Book 17, while it is doable is an unnecessary bottle-neck still, not the least on a blind play-through. It's also unthematic or even a continuity issue that you do not have the Sommerswerd, or any items at all basically. The one Potion of Laumspur from the Equipment section seems like Joe's practical joke, when healing as a skill heals nearly one and a half orders of magnitude of that, per book. So I prefer the pre-made character with some starting items (still *with* healing then). |
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Post by Nym90 on Dec 28, 2017 20:32:09 GMT
That's an interesting idea. It would make sense to have items that are automatically acquired upon completion of earlier books (Sommerswerd, Dagger of Vashna, Korlinium Scabbard, Helshezag) provided to new GM players, but not the other special items that would have required proper choices and/or luck to obtain.
I understand why Joe didn't automatically provide them when the books were written as he wanted to increase the incentive to purchase and complete earlier books, but nowadays it is thematically inconsistent for a new player to not have those items.
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Post by tycho on Jan 4, 2018 16:37:35 GMT
new Hardcore:
As hemulen already mentioned in the other thread, to access the equipment screen at the start of a book you have to take the unintuitive approach of clicking "next" on the disciplines screen. In the following books the adventure starts immediately at section 1, but you can still acess the equipment screen to select the map and gold, equipment is greyed out though (which is probably intentional).
Now comes the bug: I noticed the SS loses CS between books, don't know how that is supposed to work exactly, in my first run I lost 1 CS in book 3, then 2 CS in 4 and 3 CS in 5. That was without accessing the equipment screen, because I didn't realize that was still possible. In my second run in book 3 I selected the map and in consequence the SS lost 1 CS, again for the gold. Also when selecting map or gold in book 6 it duplicated the Dead SS, I had three copies.
I also tried not using the SS in combat to conserve it's power, but that didn't work.
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