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Post by Ofecks on Apr 15, 2004 18:09:24 GMT
I can't believe I didn't think of leaving stuff in safe-keeping. I can be quite a dummy sometimes.  As far as the Sommerswerd in books 9-11 goes, I'd definitely leave it in safe-keeping for 9, but I'd take it with me for 10. Since you can't leave anything in safe-keeping after 10, and you need it for 11. Even though the Chaos-Master fight is much harder with it, I don't see how you can survive the last two battles of the book without it, unless your initial CS happens to be 19, and you save some Alether potions for them. And then you'll need some really lucky RN rolls too. God, book 11 is f***ing NASTY. |
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Post by Elix Nosferatu on Apr 15, 2004 19:52:05 GMT
Correct me if I'm interpreting the book the wrong way, but it seems to me that you could choose either path. If you had both the Sommerswerd and the Ironheart Broadsword, couldn't you simply choose to use one or the other?
About putting things in safe keeping, every time I've played there has always been some way of recovering your special items (if not all of them, at least the important ones) and I consider the +8 CS bonus from the Sommerswerd vital to my survival. As for backpack items, I never worry about them unless they are rare and potentially life-saving (oede herb, a rope, etc.) and usually those can be picked up during the book in which they will be most useful.
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Post by Ofecks on Apr 16, 2004 6:44:11 GMT
Correct me if I'm interpreting the book the wrong way, but it seems to me that you could choose either path. If you had both the Sommerswerd and the Ironheard Broadsword, couldn't you simply choose to use one or the other? The thing is, you can't have both. The book asks you if you have the Sommerswerd, and if you do, you skip the treasure vault section and go straight to the roof. |
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Post by Elix Nosferatu on Apr 17, 2004 15:47:37 GMT
Then I cheated, too bad...  |
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Post by Relenoir on Apr 17, 2004 23:25:37 GMT
INFIDEL! Shame on you, and you call yourself a moderator...
;)Just kidding- I've done worse; see the thread on "A little question about death."
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Post by Elix Nosferatu on Apr 18, 2004 2:43:32 GMT
AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! Such blasphemy!!!!
As the pot calls the kettle black....
But really, we know all about the LW baddies, how about Grey Star? I think that the kleasa is the most vile, devious concoction ever to be....concocted. Barely scraping along the story, while being pounced upon by a spirit-beast that can only be killed after much agony and stress is not a happy thing.
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Post by Hal on Apr 18, 2004 14:21:58 GMT
The good alternative to the Sommerswerd was always the Vashna's dagger that you find at the end of book #4. The same efficiency to deal with those kind of opponents (Haakon, Kimah, The Chaos master, etc) and more discreet. Useful against Kraagenskull as you can't throw the Sommerswerd in the darklands. The Sommerswerd is not exactly a discreet weapon : I remember that if you use against the Chaos Master, he instantly detects your presence and you lose the advantage of surprise. I also remember that, from book #9, it often was a _disadvantage_ to have got the Sommerswerd in such cases. What an idea, too, of being so godlikeky powerful ?
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Post by Relenoir on Apr 19, 2004 0:18:18 GMT
PERFECT! I was actually going to say something to that effect myself... nice retort!  This apparition is something that has stayed with me for years in my head, and I've actually modeled some creatures after it and used it in the Magnamund campaign I used to run. It scared the hell out of me the first time I ran across it; the picture is downright sinister! ***WARNING- POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD!!!*** Of course, Agarash the Damned -that old slayer of Nyxator that he is- is an imposing figure to be put up against... it took the entire Elder Magi race to take him down the last time! I think I'll have to go with the Kleasa too, since you DO have the Moonstone to enhance your powers against Agarash and he doesn't really get all that far... |
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Post by deiseach on Apr 19, 2004 17:36:38 GMT
Someone else said it before, but...not use the Sommerswerd?? Lone Wolf a la deiseach has ALWAYS had the Sommerswerd (except before that little trip to Hammerdal, obviously), he ain't Lone Wolf without the Sommerswerd. Nope, can't be done, won't be done
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Post by Elix Nosferatu on Apr 19, 2004 18:15:32 GMT
The good alternative to the Sommerswerd was always the Vashna's dagger that you find at the end of book #4. The same efficiency to deal with those kind of opponents (Haakon, Kimah, The Chaos master, etc) and more discreet. Useful against Kraagenskull as you can't throw the Sommerswerd in the darklands. I think that certain special weapons (like the Dagger of Vashna) are used as weaponlike special items that only have certain powers in some situations (I'm open to interpretaions). The Sommerswerd, albeit indiscreet, harbors the same power and magic no matter what you are doing. I could never give it up (that +8 CS has gotten me through nearly all of the games w/o cheating a single time). There is that time where you beat the kleasa by just handing it a black-freaking-rod. |
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Post by Hal on Apr 19, 2004 20:02:36 GMT
<IIRC Mode On>
Against Zakhan Kimah, you can throw the dagger of Vashna and with a little bit of luck, kill him without having to fight with him. Hop !
Against the Chaos Master, if you use the Sommerswerd, he detects your presence and is at his maximum efficiency to deal with you. If you use the magical broadsword, he doesn't detect your presence and is greatly weakened by your first attack. If you use the dagger, he detects your presence but is (a bit less) weakened by your first attack. There are three sections in which you fight the Chaos Master and in each of this section, he has a diffent CS. Compare them : you will see that it's when you use the Sommerdswerd that he is the most powerfull ! The broadsword is by far the best solution but the dagger is a good alternative.
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Post by Banedon on Apr 19, 2004 21:09:34 GMT
The Sommerswerd seems to work well in most normal combats, it's only the major ones where it can cause problems...
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Post by Sarra on Apr 21, 2004 22:18:17 GMT
For me the most frustrating part in the whole damn series was in book 2 where you had to get through the tunnel of Tarnali. No matter how many times I tried you simply can't get through into Hammerdal without A) Losing all your money to the Noodnic's or B) have a Magic Spear.
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Post by Banedon on Apr 22, 2004 11:37:07 GMT
I remember that...when I first played Book 2, I didn't find the spear, so I got stuck at the point with the tunnels...I didn't have the Animal Kinship either...
I ended up cheating through that section until I found the spear during a later play of the book.
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Post by Sarra on Apr 22, 2004 16:08:07 GMT
I know exactly what you are saying. Dever made it way, way to easy to die at that point in the game. And getting the Magic Spear takes sheer luck the first time you are playing through. I had to cheat too.
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