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Post by palarran on Feb 27, 2023 19:58:20 GMT
Ok, enough is enough. It’s been bothering me for almost 30 years now, without a doubt the biggest issue I have with the world of Lone Wolf:
Has there ever been any canonical explanation how the Helghasts’ invulnerability to non-magical weapons is supposed to work? They are definitely corporeal beings, otherwise Silent Wolf would not have been able to pin a Helghast’s hand to a wall with a crossbow bolt. But if the bolt can pin its hand to the wall, something like a throwing axe should be able to take it clean off. And if its hand can be cut off, then so does, say, its head… and so on.
See where this leads? My suspension of disbelief simply cannot cope with a being that has a proper physical body but cannot be harmed. What if the non-Magical “weapon” was a two-ton boulder dropped on its head? A Borese bomb lobbed at its chest? A stream of Greek fire engulfing it?
Does anyone know if this issue has ever been touched by Joe Dever, e.g. in one of the old newsletters? |
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Post by rhygar on Feb 28, 2023 19:29:51 GMT
I think Joe Dever regretted not giving them a weakness of some kind other than being susceptible to magic and magic weapons?
(Did he mention this when playing the Lone Wolf RPG or something? I don't know how serious he was being.)
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Post by palarran on Mar 6, 2023 17:57:03 GMT
Ok, I learned two things: First, I’m old. I realized its rather almost 40 years I fail to come to terms with this issue. And second, I’ll probably have to wait for another 40 years or so, and then ask Joe Dever personally if I happen to meet him on the Plane of Light. Oh well.
Kai, grant me the courage to change things I can change, the serenity to accept things I cannot change, and the wisdom to tell the one from the other... |
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Post by Zipp on Mar 7, 2023 16:14:52 GMT
Ok, enough is enough. It’s been bothering me for almost 30 years now, without a doubt the biggest issue I have with the world of Lone Wolf: Has there ever been any canonical explanation how the Helghasts’ invulnerability to non-magical weapons is supposed to work? They are definitely corporeal beings, otherwise Silent Wolf would not have been able to pin a Helghast’s hand to a wall with a crossbow bolt. But if the bolt can pin its hand to the wall, something like a throwing axe should be able to take it clean off. And if its hand can be cut off, then so does, say, its head… and so on. See where this leads? My suspension of disbelief simply cannot cope with a being that has a proper physical body but cannot be harmed. What if the non-Magical “weapon” was a two-ton boulder dropped on its head? A Borese bomb lobbed at its chest? A stream of Greek fire engulfing it? Does anyone know if this issue has ever been touched by Joe Dever, e.g. in one of the old newsletters? This has actually been explained by Joe! The Helghasts operate off an insanely fast healing factor that has a priority focus in keeping the body together. Thus, it is nearly impossible to cut off its head because it is literally healing the damage even before your sword is done cutting. An "RPG" way to describe it is with Damage Reduction: the healing factor is so fast that any damage under a certain amount essentially gets ignored. But the body can still be physically manipulated (say by a crossbow bolt). The boulder crushing scenario we address in the Official Lone Wolf Podcast, where August explains that a Helghast would still be alive under the boulder, just unable to get out from underneath it. To actually kill a Helghast by non-magical means would require an incredible amount of damage being applied consistently and quickly enough that it overwhelmed the healing factor. |
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Post by Lucy Van Pelt on Mar 8, 2023 3:43:26 GMT
Ok, enough is enough. It’s been bothering me for almost 30 years now, without a doubt the biggest issue I have with the world of Lone Wolf: Has there ever been any canonical explanation how the Helghasts’ invulnerability to non-magical weapons is supposed to work? They are definitely corporeal beings, otherwise Silent Wolf would not have been able to pin a Helghast’s hand to a wall with a crossbow bolt. But if the bolt can pin its hand to the wall, something like a throwing axe should be able to take it clean off. And if its hand can be cut off, then so does, say, its head… and so on. See where this leads? My suspension of disbelief simply cannot cope with a being that has a proper physical body but cannot be harmed. What if the non-Magical “weapon” was a two-ton boulder dropped on its head? A Borese bomb lobbed at its chest? A stream of Greek fire engulfing it? Does anyone know if this issue has ever been touched by Joe Dever, e.g. in one of the old newsletters? This has actually been explained by Joe! The Helghasts operate off an insanely fast healing factor that has a priority focus in keeping the body together. Thus, it is nearly impossible to cut off its head because it is literally healing the damage even before your sword is done cutting. An "RPG" way to describe it is with Damage Reduction: the healing factor is so fast that any damage under a certain amount essentially gets ignored. But the body can still be physically manipulated (say by a crossbow bolt). The boulder crushing scenario we address in the Official Lone Wolf Podcast, where August explains that a Helghast would still be alive under the boulder, just unable to get out from underneath it. To actually kill a Helghast by non-magical means would require an incredible amount of damage being applied consistently and quickly enough that it overwhelmed the healing factor. It is impossible to cut off its head because it is impossible to cut off its head lah. Nevermind... 😳😳 |
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