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Post by Al on Jun 13, 2006 10:29:38 GMT
Hi Guys After days of looking for where I put my LW character sheet, I finally found it and am able to start Deathlord of Ixia...
It is the same character that I origionally started with those many many moons ago when I first joined PA, and he is not the most powerful LW ever, but he is the only one I have used. (this is not to say that he has not died any glorious deaths!)
This begs me to ask, does anyone else have a lone wolf that they have been using for a while now?
Al
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Post by jardek on Jun 13, 2006 10:57:02 GMT
I keep the LW that I once rolled with perfect stats.
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Post by HuntingWolf on Jun 13, 2006 12:56:19 GMT
lol Jardek, you cheater! i usually re-roll whenever I start the quests over from book 1. then again, there was a time when I saved my character sheets and used them...
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Post by Al on Jun 13, 2006 13:44:51 GMT
OK dudes I just played Deathlord, and let me say... HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY WIN?!?!?! I encountered three enemies back to back each with over 50 CS... is there something that I am doing wrong, admitidly, my LW is weaker (CS 16 base) but given all the bonuses you can get, I have to use everythign at my disposal to get to CS 49 (then I loose 1EP per round, normally not a problem, right? But I just got killed by those winged things from the Dazrium Plane, who I started fighting with with an EP of 9...)
Man that was a hard adventure, but a good way to kill a couple of hours, and means I will have to try it again!
And I have never played that before, so now I see the humour in the profile pic of the Tagzian Poodle!
Al
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Post by Black Cat on Jun 13, 2006 20:23:40 GMT
I use the same character that I had rolled when I played for the first time the online books. Ok, I got an 8 for both CS and EP, so I didn't really wanted to re-roll everytime I was dying. So I played all the books with that same character and I died only in book 6 during the first 12 books with an instant death following a RNT roll (I should have bought that horse instead of stealing it!). However, starting with book 13, I died maybe 3-4 times per book (except for book16 that I passed through in one shot). In book 17, I miscalculated my CS, but I noticed it only when I was in the middle of the book. I need to replay the book with the correct CS.
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Post by Al on Jun 15, 2006 8:08:51 GMT
I use the same character that I had rolled when I played for the first time the online books. Ok, I got an 8 for both CS and EP, so I didn't really wanted to re-roll everytime I was dying. So I played all the books with that same character and I died only in book 6 during the first 12 books with an instant death following a RNT roll (I should have bought that horse instead of stealing it!). However, starting with book 13, I died maybe 3-4 times per book (except for book16 that I passed through in one shot). In book 17, I miscalculated my CS, but I noticed it only when I was in the middle of the book. I need to replay the book with the correct CS. I got a 6 and a nine myself... I would love to trade them around, because an extra 3 CP would have been a heck of a lot more usefull than an extra 3 EP in most situations that I have had trouble with (that I remember) Al
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Post by jardek on Jun 15, 2006 12:33:44 GMT
Hunting wolf: I restart every time I play from book one, but when a new book comes out here, I just use my kept character with the perfect stats.
As for Ixia, it's not too hard. My LW has a fairly obscene CS by this stage - why? Because I reroll my stats from the first GM book, so I get those hardass stats you can obtain as a newbie, and I get loyalty bonuses like the sommerswerd, silver helm, shield, and the rest of that magic armor. It strikes me as logical.
A harder book combat-wise in my estimation is the dungeons of Torgar. I went through it with a pretty beasty LW (42/40 all up), and tried to get to all the difficult combats. That is, I rode my pony into the battle of Cetza and fought the dude with the power staff, then beat Baron Shinnagar (or whoever) to death because I think evading is for pansies, and then went out of my way to find the Tagazin poodle. My LW got the Tagazin poodle down to less than 20EP with LW on 0EP.
I don't consider that dead, by the way. I only consider negatives dead. 0 is only nearly dead. It strikes me as logical (I say that a lot).
That's closer than I generally come to death, unless I take the sommerswerd to the Daziarn with a shitty character.
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Post by jaase on Jun 17, 2006 22:37:45 GMT
Hi,
well, about my LoneWolf - I have had quite a lot of them (:-)), with one simple reason - I bought my first LoneWolf book (nr. 4 - Chasm of Doom), I´ve make new character, then I got book 5, then 6, and then I´ve decided to buy book 2 via mailing order; and - what now? Having a Kai Master going through 2nd book won´t be right (heh, all Kai disciplines plus 3 Magnakai - nice :-)), so I´ve started playing Fire on the water (2nd book) with new character. Well, in short - this happend twice more, becouse I´ve managed to get books 11 and 12 after I bought the 13nd one, and AFTER this I found the 1st and 3rd ones (haven´t had them before) in some second-hand bookshop. Well, after this I´ve started once again, from the beginning with "new" LoneWolf.<br> About the rolling - starting with 2nd book, I´ve decided for simple rule - try a re-roll, if I got a better number, I would boost the stat by one. E.g.: at beginnig, my LoneWolf had CS of 13, EN 25; at Fire on the water, I´ve rolled (yes, rolled - I´m using dice) 9 (for CS) and 4 (for EN) - well, the CS roll was higher than before, so it was like getting some experience from fights in 1st book - therefore I boost the CS by one (changing it to 19 would be too fast); and continued with every new book. This way I´ve managed to get my Lone Wolf basic (i.e. without any bonuses from weaponsmastery, Lore circles ...) CS and EN to max (19 for CS, 29 for EN) by the book 10. Combined with that nice bonuses from disciplines, Lore circles, and Special items, combats were quite fast and easy :-). THEN the book 13+ comes (the Grand Master adventures) - and things were getting bad - enemies with CS over 35 (I´ve had 39 by then) and immune to Mindblast were quite common, plus few ultra-strong "end" enemies (CS 50 and so) - I´ve died few times before sucessful end :-)).<br> And about the Deathlord of Ixia - enemies with CS 50 - not some, but a LOT of them! My only luck was the enchanted weapon, inflicting 2x damage to the undead ... but fighting Demonlord Tagazin, then the Lavas (the dragonlike creatures on shadowplane), then Tagazin again, and then the Deathlord - this all reducing my EN so fast without enough time to heal myself ... well, I´ve won, but it "costs" me 2 potions of Aleuther, 2 Laumpspur elixirs (lucky enough I´ve spend a lot of gold back in books 5 and 6 to buy it :-)), and thanks god (sorry, thanks Kai and Ishir :-)), that at final fight with Deathlord I´ve rolled 0, 9, 0, 3, 6, 8, 6 :-)
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Post by Al on Jun 18, 2006 13:38:40 GMT
I have no potions at this point of the game with my LW It is that combo that knocked me out as well Taz then the dragons then... man is it hard! Al
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Post by jaase on Jun 18, 2006 20:22:42 GMT
Well, I´ve spent about 30 or so gold both in books 5 and 6 ... by the way, I found really disappointig the fact, that after book 8 or 9 money is useless - there is simply no way to buy anything ... well, I´m collecting all money I can found - not beeing greed, I just take it as money I´d put into Kai monastery :-D (as well as some valuable things - in book 8, I´ve had 4 packs of silver, that I brought back to Monastery :-))
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Post by Darkash on Jun 19, 2006 2:46:12 GMT
I pulled it off with a base CS 14, base END 27. All the goodies from books 1-12, including Kagonite Chainmail and Adgana (Although I became addicted, OOPS), some Alether (Good in all these battles), Oede, all of my available Laumspur. Also, I allowed myself to use the Sommwersword against everyone from Tagazin 1 on up- the Deathlord certainly knows you're there when you fight Tagazin, and all the other battles are on another plain. Pulled it off on my first try, then failed in an escape check. Again, OOPS. Are you remembering the CS and END bonuses for finishing books 13-16?
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Post by Al on Jun 20, 2006 8:56:51 GMT
. Are you remembering the CS and END bonuses for finishing books 13-16? I'll have to double check that I have all my bonuses... And Jardek, I do not think you are supposed to do that, I think the general consensus here is that the post 13 books give you higher base stats to make up for not having all the kit from the earlier books, but hey, if that is the way you want to play, then I am sure Dusk Fox will not object! Al Who looks to Dusk Fox for all his moral conundrums
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Post by Darkash on Jun 20, 2006 18:25:14 GMT
Al, here is my list of bonuses you should have acquired. (Assuming optimal rolls/dicipline choices, books 1-16)
Sommersword+8 Weaponmastery +4 (Or Grand Weaponmastery, +5) Lore Circles +5CS, +11END Kagonite Chainmail +3CS, +1END Silver Bracers +2CS, +1END Silver Helm +2CS 4 New diciplines +4CS, +8END
And of course various potions, psychic diciplines (If you don't have Kai-Surge by now, good luck!) etc, etc. Alternatly, for the portion of the book you don't use the Sommerswerd, I had the Bronin Warhammer. I don't know if you do or not, so apply that only if necessary.
(I hope that's all of them, I'd feel like an idiot if I missed one after trying to list all of them)
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Post by zagzig on Jun 20, 2006 18:54:54 GMT
Hiya. New member...
I recently played Deathlord myself and got my frost-bitten rear handed to me on a platter. That was even though my character was one I'd carried through all the way from book 1, and was about as tooled up as possible (pretty much as Darkash posted)! So many tough fights!
In the end I restarted it from scratch and chose a different discipline in order to get through it (Kai-surge) - something I hadn't had to do with previous books. Even then I only won because I assumed that Ixy was undead so the Sommerswerd did double damage. I suspect that might be wishful thinking...
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Post by Darkash on Jun 20, 2006 23:16:11 GMT
Even then I only won because I assumed that Ixy was undead so the Sommerswerd did double damage. I suspect that might be wishful thinking... First things first, welcome to our little community, zagzig. (zagzig? You know everyone is going to call you zigzag, right? ;D) As to the Deathlord being undead, that is a matter that has been debated on and off on, if not this site, then others. Personally, I calculated normal damage when I fought him. There is no direct evidence that he is undead. On the other hand, if he isn't, he sure is pretty long lived! Maybe that cage the Eldar Magi put him in put him in stasis?
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