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Post by Storm Dancer on May 2, 2004 14:48:51 GMT
Ie. gold - when you're handed a pouch, should we take it?
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Post by Ghost Bear on May 2, 2004 15:52:15 GMT
You mean at the start of a new adventure? If so, then yes, certainly. As stated throughout: (this example comes from The Cauldron of Fear)
If you have successfully completed books 1-8 of the Lone Wolf adventures, you may add this sum to the total sum of Crowns you already possess. You can carry a maximum of only fifty Crowns, but additional Crowns can be left in safekeeping at your Kai monastery.
The only time you can't do this is at the start of Prisoners of Time - you have to keep everything as it was at the start of Dungeons of Torgar.
-GB
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Post by Relenoir on May 3, 2004 2:23:34 GMT
I always seem to reach 50 at some point within the first few books, and then just keep adding to it as I go. Usually, except for book six, I don't end up spending enough to need more gold than they give you at the beginning of the next to get back to 50. Of course, you never spend any in book 7, so by book 8 I'm usually back to 50 again. I always assume that any I'm given over 50 I would return to the person offerring it to me, saying "This is all I can carry, but thank you for your generosity." After all, Kai Lords aren't exactly a greedy lot.
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Post by Ofecks on May 3, 2004 6:04:17 GMT
I always take a little bit of money with me (10-20 GCs), but I leave the rest in safe-keeping. I'm at book 15, and I've saved up 130 or so. It never hurts to have a nest egg for a rainy day. For instance:
(spoiler): The Grey Crystal Ring in book 8 costs 30 Gold Crowns, unless you have one of the special items to trade (and are willing to trade), which you may or may not.[/size]
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jimy
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Post by jimy on May 3, 2004 10:10:50 GMT
after a while i just stopped taking the gold. you can pick up a fortune in chasm of doom wacking the bandits around i like taking meals and rope and potions ect. even though i might have hunting, i take meals just for the occasions where you have to delete stuff from your backpack, might as well delete the meals
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on May 3, 2004 13:01:28 GMT
I occasionally use the "Freeway Warrior rule"; 50 gold crowns (a full belt pouch) = 1 backpack item, just like a full ammo pouch = 1 backpack item in FW.
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Post by Sarra on May 3, 2004 16:23:41 GMT
I always accepted new equipment including gold. And if I had extra I just left it at the Monastery which I could pick up in the next story if I was short on money.
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Post by Relenoir on May 5, 2004 12:04:09 GMT
Wow, never thought of that. Awesome idea, really. I could stock up on about 6 alether potions in book 6.
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Post by The Wytch-King on May 5, 2004 12:30:21 GMT
I occasionally use the "Freeway Warrior rule"; 50 gold crowns (a full belt pouch) = 1 backpack item, just like a full ammo pouch = 1 backpack item in FW. Could unbalance the books, though, if you carry around more than 50 gold crowns ... *remembering some foes* On the other hand, at a few points the books are already rather unbalanced. Against us. I always assume that any I'm given over 50 I would return to the person offerring it to me, saying "This is all I can carry, but thank you for your generosity." Now that's truly in character. Why have I never thought of that? *feels like a moneygrubber* The Wytch-King
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Post by Ghost Bear on May 5, 2004 13:20:50 GMT
I normally pack about 25 crowns and leave the rest. Course, it depends on the adventure - In the Caverns of Kalte for instance, I'll just take the base 10 + random number crowns, since I figure I won't be needing vast riches in a frozen wasteland.
Incidentally, at the end of Book 15, I have 65 Crowns, 20 Lune and 120 kika for a grand total of 82 GC. Which is plenty.
Incidentally, for those eagerly awaiting Book 16 before continuing your quest, what does your inventory look like at the moment? Here's my list (including stuff in safe keeping):
Backpack Items
2 Potions of Laumspur, 1 Distilled Laumspur (heals 5EP), 1 Potion of Alether, 1 Flask of Holy Water, 1 Dose of Adgana, Lantern, Rope, Whistle (God knows why), 5 Meals.
Weapons: Axe and Dagger
Special Items
Sommerswerd, Silver Bow of Duadon, Silver Helm, Dagger of Vashna, Crystal Star Pendant, Silver Bracers, Helshezag, Quiver, Jadin Amulet and Korlinium Scabbard.
I used about 4 Laumspur potions and 2 Alether potions in Prisoners of Time - Unsurpsingly.
-GB
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Post by Relenoir on May 6, 2004 1:01:24 GMT
You know, I've gotten that Jadin Amulet, and it seems really great, but then I forget to use it. Not only that, I don't really think there are many opportunities to use it in the rest of the books, at least in the paths that I remember. Any other thoughts on this?
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Post by Archdruid on May 6, 2004 11:46:32 GMT
Incidentally, at the end of Book 15, I have 65 Crowns, 20 Lune and 120 kika for a grand total of 82 GC. Which is plenty. Incidentally, for those eagerly awaiting Book 16 before continuing your quest, what does your inventory look like at the moment? Here's my list (including stuff in safe keeping): Backpack Items 2 Potions of Laumspur, 1 Distilled Laumspur (heals 5EP), 1 Potion of Alether, 1 Flask of Holy Water, 1 Dose of Adgana, Lantern, Rope, Whistle (God knows why), 5 Meals. Weapons: Axe and Dagger Special Items Sommerswerd, Silver Bow of Duadon, Silver Helm, Dagger of Vashna, Crystal Star Pendant, Silver Bracers, Helshezag, Quiver, Jadin Amulet and Korlinium Scabbard. I used about 4 Laumspur potions and 2 Alether potions in Prisoners of Time - Unsurpsingly. -GB Well, I'm a bit of a pack rat, so pretty much EVERYTHING I found in the books and knew I wouldn't need later is in safekeeping. I decided to ignore that you have safekeeping only after book 5, because I figured Ulnar would be happy to watch your stuff for you while you were gone. So I still have stuff like the Diamond from Kalte, the Onyx Medallion, Parsion's black sword (was using the Prince's sword as a weapon 'til I lost it in the ocean), the Magic Spear, etc. Consequently, I also have 143 Gold Crowns, 36 Lune, and 430 Kika (! must have been a bookkeeping error, because the only place where I might have made that many Kika is on the way to Helgedad -- must have forgotten about that 50 GC limit). In terms of actual carried equipment: 25 GC, Crystal Star Pendant, Sommerswerd, Silver Bow of Duadon, Silver Helm, Kagonite Chainmail, Quiver, Jadin Amulet (+1 vs Missiles), a rope, a sword, and a map of the Tentarias. I also have the Silver Bracers in storage. So far I've taken G. Weaponmastery, G. Huntmastery, Kai-screen, Kai-alchemy, Telegnosis, and Deliverance, if anyone cares.
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Post by Ghost Bear on May 6, 2004 12:39:19 GMT
Well, it really depends. 430 kika = 43 Gold Crowns, so it depends how much coins you decide to start that adventure with. The Masters of Darkness would have been one where I don't take many Crowns to start with, because there wouldn't be much use for them.
AS for my Grand Master Disciplines: Grand Weaponmastery, Grand Pathmanship, Kai Alchemy, Kai Screen, Grand Huntmastery, Assimilance.
At first I picked Grand Huntmastery in my first four, but then I lost 20 EP in one encounter in the Forest of Ruel, so I quickly added Kai Screen.
I might take Telegnosis for my next Discipline, then Deliverance.
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Post by Omega M. on May 6, 2004 14:49:31 GMT
Why Grand Weaponmastery in the initial four? Are you not giving yourself the +4 Combat Skill bonus when using any weapon that you get if you've played through all of the Magnakai books? (See the "Scion-Kai" section of "Improved Magnakai Disciplines.") If you have that, the 1 extra point of Combat Skill from Grand Weaponmastery is marginal unless you know it will put you in a higher Combat Ratio column for a critical fight.
Additionally, I didn't find Kai Alchemy very useful in Book 13. Instead of these two disciplines, I took Kai Surge and Assimilance. Kai Surge makes the fight against the worms in the Ruel forest much easier, and thereby gives you a relatively painless path to Mogaruith. Assimilance helps in avoiding the Degradon fight and a fight with Vazhags near the end. (I do agree with taking Grand Pathsmanship and Kai Screen.)
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Post by Vonotar on May 6, 2004 16:53:44 GMT
Why Grand Weaponmastery in the initial four? Are you not giving yourself the +4 Combat Skill bonus when using any weapon that you get if you've played through all of the Magnakai books? (See the "Scion-Kai" section of "Improved Magnakai Disciplines.") If you have that, the 1 extra point of Combat Skill from Grand Weaponmastery is marginal unless you know it will put you in a higher Combat Ratio column for a critical fight. Additionally, I didn't find Kai Alchemy very useful in Book 13. Instead of these two disciplines, I took Kai Surge and Assimilance. Kai Surge makes the fight against the worms in the Ruel forest much easier, and thereby gives you a relatively painless path to Mogaruith. Assimilance helps in avoiding the Degradon fight and a fight with Vazhags near the end. (I do agree with taking Grand Pathsmanship and Kai Screen.) Personally, I like to take Kai Screen, Grand Nexus, Grand Huntmastery, and Assimilance for LW13. I follow this with Kai Alchemy for LW14, and then Grand Pathsmanship for LW15. Although longer, the path through the Skardos mountains is easier, and my choice of disciplines is intended for use with this path. Kai-Surge is very useful for the forest route, otherwise you probably need to use the Adgana (from LW12) to defeat the Ruel Giganite. But apart from that, Kai Surge doesn't seem terribly useful in the first 3 GM books, apart from the +2CS improvement over the Psi-Surge bonus you get in LW12. This is only likely to benefit you in certain tough fights, and seems of marginal benefit compared to certain other disciplines. Ditto for Grand Pathsmanship - apart from avoiding 'that fight', it's not much use in LW13 or 14. If you use all your bonuses from the Magnakai series, it may actually be to your advantage to complete the fight. The main reason I choose certain Disciplines is to win/avoid the really tough fights, and to minimise chances of death by RN. In the case of LW13, choosing those four Disciplines helps me avoid a lot of RN deaths, such as those in the plague chamber. I do agree that if you have played through the Magnakai series, you really don't need G. Weaponmastery for a while. Same goes for Deliverance, and probably Kai-Surge too.
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