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Post by outspaced on Jan 16, 2013 20:25:19 GMT
No, it's not intentional. Nor was it an easy diagnose, because all the references were present and correct. I had to pass it upwards for Jon to sort out...turns out there was an obscure bug in the xml preventing the Special Items illustrations from being correctly incorporated into the Action Chart pages.
Jon has fixed the xml and fixed the online versions of the books' pages, so if you CTRL-F5 the pages, you should now be able to see the Special Items images as well.
Weird!
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Post by pi4t on Mar 10, 2013 20:35:49 GMT
Another 'error', or more accurately apparent unintended effect. In Shadow on the Sand, it's possible to get your items confiscated, and then not returned to you. For instance, avoiding the blacksmith at 132 by going to 30, then following the sections leads you to 87. If you don't have Sixth Sense, or choose to take no notice of it, then you miss the chance to regain your equipment and are herded on to the bronze door combination lock. As far as I can tell, there's no way to regain your items after this, which can lead to the playing losing items like the Sommerswerd forever. Perhaps there should be a footnote at the end of the book saying you can recover your items, in the style of book 9's?
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Post by Wise Eagle on Mar 10, 2013 21:34:06 GMT
The loss of your items is surely intentional here.
Even the potential loss of the Sommerswerd.
The new Zakhan of Vassagonia would never let you reclaim your items.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 11, 2013 14:23:36 GMT
Yeah, there's a definite difference between this instance and the one in Tahou: At the end of Book 9, you are on friendly terms with the ruler and government officials; in Barrakeesh you're not. In fact, you don't even get to sic Zakhan Kimah until Tahou. So the loss is both permanent and intentional here.
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Post by pi4t on Mar 11, 2013 20:28:45 GMT
It does seem a little harsh, and somewhat odd that Lone Wolf would just accept that he's lost the Sommerswerd, without making any attempt to regain it. It's a relic which is arguably more valuable than the Book of the Magnakai, after all. At the very least, the fact that as far as LW knows it's not been destroyed by book 9 implies that he should probably go and fetch it after defeating the Zakhan. It's a bit of an obscure path, and as far as I can tell all other routes lead to the recovery of your items, so that seems to suggest a mistake: to me at least.
After all, in later books JD seems to have been quite careful to ensure that the player recovers the Sommerswerd if it's taken from him.
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Mar 11, 2013 22:20:21 GMT
It is an obscure path. In all the times I have played through SoS I can honestly say I've never taken it. I wonder why?
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Post by pi4t on Mar 13, 2013 19:02:33 GMT
Probably because you couldn't resist investigating the blacksmith just before that point.
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Rín
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Post by Rín on Mar 27, 2013 9:57:17 GMT
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Post by outspaced on Mar 27, 2013 20:43:00 GMT
Ah, what a dumb error that we introduced! Fixed in the source xml; this will be fixed in the online editions the next time we re-release Book 4. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Post by pi4t on Apr 5, 2013 13:39:03 GMT
www.projectaon.org/en/xhtml/lw/05sots/sect329.htm: A minor point, but it's somewhat unclear whether the player should be allowed to choose not to use the rope if he has one. Reading the section from a rules lawyer point of view makes it fairly clear: you can only go to 387 if you don't have a rope. However, although 'you can' could merely mean 'you are capable of, and therefore choose to' in this context, it seems...unlikely, especially given that you know you're being pursued by people carrying edged weapons which can cut through the rope. In fact, for this very reason, the 'use the rope' option has a 3 in 10 chance of instantly killing you, while it's possible to defeat your pursuers and escape without having to jump off the tower. I think that either way, a footnote clarifying whether or not you are allowed to choose the 'don't use the rope' option if you have a rope is needed here.
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Post by outspaced on Apr 7, 2013 9:29:28 GMT
Thanks for reporting this. After discussion on the mailing list, though, it was decided by the project coordinator that:
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Post by Wise Eagle on Apr 7, 2013 22:09:32 GMT
Usually, if you have no choice it is indicated much more clearly that you don't have one.
If you have xx, turn immediately/directly/nothing to yyy.
These are game books and the choice is with the player, so player can choose I'd say.
Usually the later books are a bit clearer that there is an option, at least when it comes to using kai skills.
It would be nice if the second option was worded differently for this however.
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Post by falconofthesun on Jun 1, 2013 9:05:55 GMT
Hello!
happy to post my first corrections. I have searched this thread for both of them using the specific function, couldn't find them, so I guess they haven't been reported yet
Book 25 (found in both full and simple w/illustration versions) Section 178 "killing below" should be changed to "killing blow"
Book 24 (found in both full and simple w/o illustration versions) Section 291 "and it flies true" should be changed to "and it flies through"
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Post by outspaced on Jun 1, 2013 20:29:39 GMT
Hello! happy to post my first corrections. I have searched this thread for both of them using the specific function, couldn't find them, so I guess they haven't been reported yet Cheers! We're always happy to receive feedback. D'oh! What a dumb typo we introduced there! Fixed in the source xml; this will be fixed in the online editions the next time we re-release Book 25. No, the phrase "flies true" is idiomatic but correct, meaning that the arrow's course/trajectory remains true to the original aim. So this doesn't need changing. Thanks for the feedback. We do check every report ASAP, and we appreciate any reports of spelling mistakes in the books. Glad to know that you haven't spotted any others in the earlier books...would like to think that we've finally got those licked!
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Post by Vadron on Nov 4, 2013 0:05:28 GMT
Hello. Ages ago - years ago - I submitted an 'error report' regarding Voyage of the Moonstone, regarding the book assuming I had money when I had none. I didn't post it here, I used the editor's companion. I believe I understand now why my wealth seemed so much less than the book's estimation of my wealth.
You see, after defeating Dromodon, the GM is given a reward of 20 gold crowns (section 268). My problem was that I had skimmed/skipped everything relating to the Dromodon combat on my playthrough in abject anger at the sheer amount of railroading used to get me to that point. Therefore I had not registered or gained the reward.
I just wanted to set the record straight on this one.
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