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Post by outspaced on Aug 26, 2009 9:51:19 GMT
Oddly, I didn't find any errors in book 7. Good to know! These have already been fixed in the source file. I had to think long and hard about this...and put my Google skills to good use. Basically, although your proposed change is grammatically correct, there are two points to consider. Firstly, over time, the spelling of idiomatic statements like this gets changed to reflect the way such statements are spoken. And secondly, this is spoken dialogue by the farmer, so the spelling reflects the way he is pronouncing it. If the same error occurs outside of a quotation, I would agree that it should probably be fixed, but because it is someone speaking, and the spelling reflects their pronunciation, let's leave these two alone. Good call, though! Both of these are fine as-is (chiefly UK usage?). This is probably OK as-is...I think. For whatever reason, this is as designed. The Sommerswerd deflecting the "stream of liquid fire" prevents the levitron from being weakened, it seems. No change necessary. There is no use for the Gnadurn Sap anywhere else in the Lone Wolf series. However, Joe permits us to carry around plenty of red herrings. So: Fixed "vial of clear liquid -> Vial of Clear Liquid"; "vial -> Vial". However, I've added "...as a Special Item" rather than a Backpack Item, since you 'pocket' it, meaning it's probably rather small. Fixed. (This is no accent I've ever encountered, so I'm assuming it's a mistake!) Yes, this is inconsistent and annoying for anyone without Curing. I've fixed it with the following three changes: 261: a potion of Laumspur -> any Laumspur, Rendalim's Elixir, or Oede herb [so: cf. Section 317] 261: this healing herb -> these healing potions [so: cf. Section 317] 349: the Laumspur -> the potion Well, as a house rule people are free to do that, of course, but I can't see how a substance to cure bacteria will help against deadly poison; basically, only the "big hitters" in the healing stakes will work to save Paido (Rendalim's Elixir, Laumspur, Oede).
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Post by owlfeather on Aug 26, 2009 15:18:15 GMT
The "fine drizzle" can be used here in the US, but the singular of cloud sounds odd in this context. I guess a single cloud doesn't seem capable of being menacing to me, and streak suggests to me more than one, otherwise I'd just say cloud. Streak of clouds, sure. Streak of cloud, meh.
I agonized for a while over let and lets. I tried swapping out allow and allows to look at it from a different perspective. As I said, I'm not sure of the rules on it.
Let me just add you do an amazing job Outspaced! I must admit I'm surprised at your consistently upbeat demeanor. Given how negative the net is in general, your positive tone is all the more striking.
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Post by outspaced on Aug 27, 2009 7:56:10 GMT
Hey, thanks! ;D
I always think that we should be grateful if someone reports a problem they've spotted in the books. Volunteer contribution of time and effort has been part of Project Aon right from the start, so the last thing we want to do is discourage it. That's the case with Jon Blake, Thomas Wolmer, and everyone else involved in the project.
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Post by Doomy on Aug 27, 2009 19:29:50 GMT
189 -> 13 189 -> 287 13 gives you a time limit on combat, 287 doesn't. Don't know how to resolve that. I saw the change mentioned in post 76. Was 287 updated as well? Is this the Vordaks? That's an interesting fight because it is trivially easy with the Sommerswerd but the time limit makes this book virtually impossible as a stand-alone. Did Mongoose change it at all?
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Post by outspaced on Aug 27, 2009 20:57:47 GMT
Yes, that's the footnote that got added (to the pre-release version!) in March: "In the most recent edition of The Jungle of Horrors published by Mongoose Publishing, this has been revised to: ‘If you win the combat in six rounds or less, turn to 79. If the combat lasts seven rounds or longer, turn to 158.’ As this authoritative revision was made under Joe Dever's supervision, it is appropriate to follow that revision here. We have preserved the combat from the original printing here." (Or a variation thereon; I can't remember if the wording was tweaked slightly.)
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Post by owlfeather on Aug 27, 2009 21:37:35 GMT
I've had some concerns with statskeeper, so I've decided to start over. I noticed two things in book 2 beyond what I've already reported. ------------------------------ 82 When you are certain that the angry mob have passed,
has
220 But the final proof of his true identity is the serpent tattoo on his left wrist.
see pic at 200 on his right wrist. Suggest changing "left" to "right", or flipping image.
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Post by owlfeather on Aug 29, 2009 17:08:52 GMT
book 5
69 A spy-hole slides opened above your head
open
63 Deduct 2 ENDURANCE points from your total, for every section of the book through which you pass, until you discover and swallow of Potion of Laumspur. If your ENDURANCE points total falls to 0 before you discover the healing potion, you will die from blood poisoning.
delete comma, change OF and THE to A and A.
400 Your destiny lies long the path of the Grand Masters.
along
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Post by outspaced on Aug 29, 2009 18:44:07 GMT
Book 282 When you are certain that the angry mob have passed, has Fixed! This will eventually be fixed by flipping the image. This has already been done for the pre-release of the next edition of Book 2. book 5 Fixed! Also Fixed! Took a bit of getting my head around, but I eventually got the point! All these fixes will be in the next editions of the books.
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Post by owlfeather on Sept 6, 2009 18:12:00 GMT
BOOK 7
187 He casts an anxious glance over shoulder before unsheathing his sword and advancing towards you.
over his shoulder
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BOOK 8
(equipment section)
Is there a reason why most of the images are so tiny? This is true for both the online and home versions.
316 - 242 If you possess any of these Special Items and wish to swop it, do so, remembering to make the necessary adjustments to your Action Chart.
swap
Should there be something telling what the ring does? What if they have Divination? Also, what about the Silver Box won at 338, worth 100 lune or more? Would that cover the price of the ring, or am I houseruling again? : )
60 - 248 - 27 - 47 (Paido's sword deflects fireball) 60 - 248 - 258 (weapon melts hitting fireball) 60 - 248 - 258 - 75 (weapon ineffective, you die)
As we see with Paido's magic sword, it is unaffected by the fireball. The problem here is that if you say you don't have the SS, the book assumes all your other weapons are non-magical. Yet you can have the DoV, jewelled mace, or even the magic spear. These weapons should also be able to deflect the fireball, or at the very least, be used to attack the helghast. Perhaps a footnote at 60 suggesting those with a magic weapon other than the SS can proceed to 47 while ignoring the first few sentences there?
169 You are stunned and lose a grip of your weapon.
lose grip of ? lose grip on ?
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123 - 81 (fireseed ignites gas for 12 damage)
I suspect that Dever promptly forgot about the Platinum Amulet after giving it out (book 7, 15). I would suggest letting it help here, but he doesn't let Nexus help either. Shame! Proud member of the Party For Making Useless Game Features Useful.
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Post by outspaced on Sept 7, 2009 12:54:02 GMT
BOOK 7187 He casts an anxious glance over shoulder before unsheathing his sword and advancing towards you. over his shoulder Fixed! (Stupid OCR typo. :-\ ) BOOK 8This has been fixed due to inclusion of higher quality scans for the next edition of the book. It has already been fixed to "...swap one of them...". Although 'swop' is considered an acceptable variant spelling in some dictionaries, it is chiefly recognised in the UK, and even we usually spell it 'swap' these days. All house rules! We have already added a footnote here that reads: "You should also turn to this number if you possess the Dagger of Vashna, the Jewelled Mace, or the Magic Spear. (See The Captives of Kaag Section 12.)" No, "lose a grip of" is correct. Since Nexus doesn't work, neither does the sub-standard Platinum Amulet.
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Post by owlfeather on Sept 8, 2009 16:08:37 GMT
Interesting to know that "swop" is occasionally used in the UK. I try to pay attention to alternate spellings of words, so I'll store that away.
As for "lose a grip of," I'd say that's also British phraseology. In US English such a phrase is awkward, if not outright incorrect. We could say "lose a grip on your weapon," or, "lose grip of your weapon," but the preferred way would be, "lose hold of your weapon." (saying all this as if I'm some kind of authority hehe ;D)
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Post by nox on Sept 10, 2009 14:14:58 GMT
As for "lose a grip of," I'd say that's also British phraseology. In US English such a phrase is awkward, if not outright incorrect. We could say "lose a grip on your weapon," or, "lose grip of your weapon," but the preferred way would be, "lose hold of your weapon." (saying all this as if I'm some kind of authority hehe ;D) I'm not a native speaker of English, but to me it would look better with "lose the grip of your weapon" -- I read somewhere in this thread about voice-to-text thingy, and "a" and "the" can sound remarkably similar sometimes But to the main issue of my post: I discovered a huge questionmark in The Kingdoms of Terror, #275: So... I can have kept the map of Sommerlund from book 1 or 2, as a Special Item, but this one suddenly counts as a Backpack Item? Or are they significantly larger and/or bulkier than the maps at the beginnings of the books? If so, perhaps a slight addition to the sentence should be considered? I.e. "The maps are Backpack Items due to their size." Edit: Again, in #109, the Map of Tekaro is counted as a Backpack Item.
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Post by outspaced on Sept 10, 2009 16:59:45 GMT
I'm not a native speaker of English, but to me it would look better with "lose the grip of your weapon" -- I read somewhere in this thread about voice-to-text thingy, and "a" and "the" can sound remarkably similar sometimes In English we would say: "I have a grip of my sword," not "I have the grip of my sword". The second phrase doesn't actually make sense. Which specific grip are you talking about? Ah, but remember the Golden Rule as stated in the Equipment section of each book: "Any item that may be of use and can be picked up on your adventure and entered on your Action Chart is given initial capitals (e.g. Gold Dagger, Magic Pendant) in the text. Unless you are told it is a Special Item, carry it in your Backpack." There's no need for us to re-state the obvious.
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Post by owlfeather on Sept 11, 2009 2:50:02 GMT
BOOK 9 Meals, meals, and more meals
(Zaaryx Ghouls and Psi-ghoul)
Does their being undead render them immune to mindblast or psi-surge?
1 They fought bravely, but by the dawn of the following day, all that remained of the town and is defenders were an acre of scorched earth and a cart full of charred bones.
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163 - 28 The wretched beggars are overjoyed at your generosity and their grimy faces beam with delight as quickly they share out your gold.
coins (you can give gold crowns and / or silver lune, so coins works better, although I'm guessing you might feel it too radical a change).
102 They point at the soldiers on your table, curse loudly, and then strut across the crowded hall, barging aside anyone that gets in their way.
at
121 All they see is a blur of green as you duck under their crossed halberds and disappear into the teeming.
...teeming throng? ...teeming horde?
131 Banedon recounts how the siege has progressed; how twice the enemy have broken into the city and been repelled by the determined defenders. Attacks from the air have set the city ablaze, but the enemy have lost great numbers of their flying Kraan, and now they are too weak to dare use the few that remain.
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142 The bell rings once more and the scribes say with one voice, 'This session is now in hearing.'
Is this British? Here in the US we say "the hearing is now in session". Google found zero instances of "session is now in hearing". Or, as you discussed earlier with the farmer saying "maybe", is this perhaps a Magnamund colloquialism?
145 (spend night at tavern)
There are a few entries here, one of them being to order a meal. There's no mention however of NEEDING to eat a meal. Perhaps a mention somewhere of needing to do so? Or do you feel the fact that those who eat the tavern food (88) and are healed of all damage, is its own reward?
158 If you have the Magnakai Discipline of Divination or Huntmastery, turn to 201.
If you do not possess this skill, turn to 273.
these skills
242 (you've spent all day without food) 242 - 146 (go to Chiban's and eat) 242 - 80 (go to eating house but get arrested)
Suggest note at 134 (in prison) stating you lose EP for missing a meal, since you no longer have your pack, unless you feel the meal message at 218 (first night in Zaaryx) is the same "time period".
52 - 252 (says it's time to eat a meal)
The meal message appears for 252. Things get messy here in following all the paths. If you take 187 then double back, you'll get a meal message at 247 (leading to 318). If you take 187 then go to the village, you'll get one at 63 (leading to 145). If you take 318 then go the village, you'll again get one on the way back at 63.
Now, If you take 187 to 247 to 318 to 63, you'll eat two meals, whereas if you go straight from 52 - 318 - 145, you won't eat any meals. I'm not sure how this could be easily rectified. Perhaps a footnote at 52 saying something like, "despite instructions you may or may not come across, you should consume a total of one meal between 52 and 145."
316 You must deduct 4 points from your COMBAT SKILL for the duration of the fight, as you are without a Weapon.
It's only -2 if you have weaponmastery + tutelary
326 You spin around to see the female reptilian, the leader of her kind.
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Post by outspaced on Sept 11, 2009 13:30:56 GMT
BOOK 9 Meals, meals, and more meals (Zaaryx Ghouls and Psi-ghoul) Does their being undead render them immune to mindblast or psi-surge? Apparently not; no mention is made anywhere of their immunity, and the Psi-ghoul clearly uses a psychic attack. This was already Fixed somewhere along the line. I like this change! Fixed! This is probably a UK-centric turn of phrase, but one that is more evocative of a classroom. In primary school, you might say: "[Person X] is on my table", meaning they sit at the same table as you. It's a very juvenile statement, so I've fixed it. "...teeming throng", as per the original text. Fixed! I've never heard of this phrase. I've brought it up on the mailing list, and hopefully we can come to some consensus. For now, I've Escalated it as unresolved. It seems that was Joe's idea, yes. Left unchanged. Fixed as "...either of these skills..." Footnoted 134: "As you have not eaten all day (cf. Section 242) you should now deduct 3 ENDURANCE points." Blergh! >_< Disagree (I think). If you take a look at the Flowchart for Book 9, the paths from 318 -> 63 incorporates an overlong and unnecessary (and time-consuming) detour. The increased time spent travelling means an increase in the amount of food required. This has already been footnoted: "The normal penalty for entering a combat without a weapon is -4 COMBAT SKILL points. Remember that Tutelaries (Kai Lords with mastery of five Magnakai Disciplines) only suffer a penalty of -2 COMBAT SKILL points for entering combat unarmed." Fixed!
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