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Post by North Star on Feb 10, 2005 15:59:09 GMT
Yaoi between LW and Banedon? I'm embarrassed to actually know what that is. [nuts]! (Incidentally, it seems we can use rude words, provided that they're not in American English.) [nuts]! (sp?) Then again, I was really innocent before I went to uni. I didn't even know what yaoi was until last week NS.
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Post by outspaced on Feb 10, 2005 22:57:45 GMT
I didn't even know what yaoi was until last week I won't ask exactly how you came to find out what it meant . . . ;D
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 16, 2005 5:01:50 GMT
I think a LW anime would be great, provided it were done correctly. I love anime, have been watching the stuff since Star Blazers (Space Battleship Yamato?) and Battle of the Planets (Gatchaman?) came to the U.S. when I was a kid. Currently, my favorites are Inu Yasha and Yu Yu Hakusho. I am, however, also a huge fan of Disney animation and the way they pay excrutiating attention to detail, realistic motion, and quality. I would want the anime style to have the quality of speaking animation and motion of the Disney stuff, but the combat quality of the anime. And no, it wouldn't have to be 'Legend of the Overfiend' mature to be good either!
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Post by Zipp on Feb 16, 2005 5:11:44 GMT
So you mean like "ghost in the shell 2: innocence" quality?
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 17, 2005 2:33:14 GMT
So you mean like "ghost in the shell 2: innocence" quality? Well, to be honest, I must admit that. . . I have yet to see any of the Ghost in the Shell series but I am very intrigued by it. How 'innocent' is it?
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Post by Zipp on Feb 17, 2005 2:51:18 GMT
Think Blade Runner with a different type of message and a totally different medium. It's absolutely beautiful. Ranks up there with Princess Mononoke in my book.
Wait... you've SEEN princess mononoke, haven't you?
Me, I have seen it, um, 45 times. Exactly.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 18, 2005 14:23:49 GMT
Think Blade Runner with a different type of message and a totally different medium. It's absolutely beautiful. Ranks up there with Princess Mononoke in my book. Wait... you've SEEN princess mononoke, haven't you? Me, I have seen it, um, 45 times. Exactly. Yes, definitely seen that one, it was great! I loved watching him shear people apart with that bow! Neat ending too. Definitely need to catch Ghost now! ;D
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Post by Zipp on Feb 18, 2005 17:42:12 GMT
If you ever need recomendations, send me a PM, I've seen about 250 different series.
(Speaking of which, I think you would really like Boogiepop Phantom)
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Post by Zipp on Feb 21, 2005 2:23:47 GMT
You know, there's a great artist I know who does some really good anime work. I'm thinking of sending her a description of lone wolf and seeing what she comes up with. For her site, go here: www.spacecoyote.com/art/
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Post by outspaced on Feb 21, 2005 9:56:36 GMT
(Speaking of which, I think you would really like Boogiepop Phantom) Since I seem to have opinions about every subject under the sun, I'd like to point out that I suffered through the first ep of Boogiepop Phantom a few months ago, and thought it was an unmitigated pile of pretentious twaddle. Zipp, a mate of mine's lent me the entire first season of a show called Shaman King. I've yet to buck up the courage to watch it. Any thoughts or opinions?
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Post by Zipp on Feb 21, 2005 17:15:48 GMT
Shaman King I haven't seen. I've seen Bandit King, which is fairly entertaining.
If you continue to watch Boogiepop you'll find that the ending ties things together beautifully, with quite the feeling one gets as they place the final piece of the puzzle.
However, it's not for everybody. It's dark, for one thing, and very mind intensive, for another, though there are some brief action scenes as well. I found it to be an unforgettable experience myself.
Did you dislike Evangelion, then?
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Post by outspaced on Feb 21, 2005 17:45:33 GMT
You know, when I wrote that post earlier I almost added that I didn't care for Evangelion! I didn't think BP was particularly dark, from what I saw. There seemed to be a definite sense of style (a long way) over content. A lot of production time was obviously spent on making it appear dark, but that over-styled presentation left me cold and bored. Despite the film noir-esque direction with lots of shadows, it completely failed to grab my attention, and I couldn't wait for the episode to end. To put it into some kind of context, the same DVD contained the first ep of Samurai Deeper Kyo, which I rather enjoyed. I've seen the first episode of King of Bandit Jing on another cover DVD for Anime NewtypeUSA magazine last year. It looks fun. Annoyingly, anime never gets shown on TV over here in the UK, so any anime I might watch has to either be bought (pricey!), imported from Hong King (probable piracy!) or downloaded (illegal!), so I doubt I'll ever see any more episodes, since it didn't grab my attention that much! I watched the first couple of Eps of Shaman King earlier. I have some issues with it (the lead guy is distractingly voiced by a female seiyuu; the other lead guy is too damn short and permanently looks SD), but it's fairly harmless fun so I'll persevere.
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Post by Zipp on Feb 21, 2005 20:35:14 GMT
See, I would say that the very reasons you don't like Evangelion are connected to why you don't like Boogiepop Phantom. Nonetheless, both are brilliant shows, whether people like them or not.
In any case, I probably would peg you as liking Cowboy Bebop, Kenshin, and quite possibly Azumanga Daioh.
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Post by outspaced on Feb 21, 2005 21:11:58 GMT
See, I would say that the very reasons you don't like Evangelion are connected to why you don't like Boogiepop Phantom. Oh, without a doubt! I couldn't agree more. :-) I couldn't agree . . . I couldn't get into the couple of episodes of Cowboy Bebop I tried watching. It was another case of something that was trying very hard to be stylish and "cool", but seemed ultimately empty and unfulfilling. I saw the first episode of Mezzo (sp?), and I thought that was actually better, though it's hard to compare a season opener with a mid-season (possibly "filler") episode. :-\ Kenshin ( not Samurai X), from what I've seen and read, is very good, but I have yet to actually see any episodes, and I like to download a few before buying anything since I don't get to 'test-drive' it from the TV. Legality be stuffed! Because I tend toward being too exacting, I find things like voice talent and background music very important. If the voice doesn't go with the character (in my own mind) I find it difficult to get past that. It's my problem, I'll deal with it. Azumanga Daioh is quite possibly one of the funniest series ever made. Period. I've probably watched the entire series through about three or four times, and each episode still has me laughing out loud! ;D I suppose it's quite sad that a guy in his mid-20s watches a series about teenage girls, but I guess I'm on the same wavelength as the writer and director. And as a bonus, the series has no pretensions about how "clever" it's being; it's a show about nothing! And it positively revels in the fact! ;D
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Post by Zipp on Feb 21, 2005 22:43:45 GMT
Anyways, to go further on this subject would probably entail a debate over the stylistic purpose of shows like Evangelion, Boogiepop, and Bebop (the first two of which I believe were not caught up in style at all). For fun facts, Evangelion was based off of the insane writings of a man in solitary and Boogiepop based off a very peculiar novel.
Azumanga Daioh, on the other hand, I would argue is a stylistic piece. I love it as well, though I also love Boogiepop, Evangelion and have a liking for Bebop. Whereas I... 'dislike' Kenshin. Except for the prequel to the series, done by a different director and artist. My favorite show of the ones I've seen has to be Noir, though Evangelion ranks highly, as does Battle Athletes Victory, Goldenboy, and Azumanga, all drastically different shows. To be honest, there is rarely an anime I dislike, and I manage to find the good in the ones that I do dislike.
Anime was a career for me for a while. I went around giving speeches on it to various art groups, perhaps most notably some members of Disney who wanted to understand and use the concept of anime to try and revive their company. I can talk it up and down, sideways and leftways, and argue the points of any show I've seen, whether you liked it or not, whether I liked it or not. Not everyone loves anime, and it's a hard fact to accept, but then...
... not everyone loves Lone Wolf either.
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