Helghast Adventure Dec 3, 2006 3:35:06 GMT
Post by Zipp on Dec 3, 2006 3:35:06 GMT
adunaphel said:The Helghast War is another case of good truimphing because evil is terminally stupid...
Well, more because the author didn't want them to win.
Even so, we know that nothing can get into Dessi lands without the Eldar knowing about it and being able to stop it (there are some exceptions in the West Watch, but by then the power of the Dessi is fading, and it's fan written besides) so Vashna can't attack them, and the whole reason the Brotherhood creates the spell is because he sends the Helghasts into their midsts. They are dying out when the spell is created, and then they strike when the Helghast's guard is down.
Plus the Sommerswerd cuts through the undead like butter. A Helghast would be hard pressed to fight a page wielding the Sommerswerd.
In any case, we aren't completely in disagreement. Our only real discrepancies have to do with what can kill a Helghast, and even a helghast that is vunerable to fire (that passage from Captives of Kaag makes it fairly clear that they aren't fireproof) is a pretty damn mean opponent.
Except that there is a difference between a creature who can be chased off by peasants with burning sticks, and a creature which could annihilate a city as long as there were no magical weapons present.
Personally, I don't think that passage proves anything. In fact, it says that you cut down the Helghast with your Sommerswerd before it falls into the chasm.
Determinedly you chase after this evil being and, as it reaches the drawbridge, you come to within a sword's length of its skull.
'Die, foul spawn!' you cry, and with one fell sweep of your arm, you send the creature tumbling from the bridge to be consumed by the hungry flames below
That says to me that you cut it before it falls, and once the Helghast's spirit leaves its body, the body is easily destroyed by the roaring flames.
Even if this is not true, it still says nothing other than a Helghast was cast into a huge chasm filled with intense fire that it can't immediately escape.
- The Helghast may simply not be able to get out of the chasm
- The Helghast may eventually die due to the fire
- The fire may be magical in nature, this is Helgedad and that fire has been going forever
- That fire is so strong it may be considered to deal the kind of damage a burning brand cannot
- It could be like Lord of the Rings: the helghast is tossed into the fires from whence it came