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Post by outspaced on Jun 10, 2004 8:38:57 GMT
Hey now.  Australian English [is] closer to the Queen's English than most variants within Britain. ;D Ah, it's just like everything else in the world: whatever Britain invents, everyone else goes on to be better at it!  (Outspaced--who is preparing for England to lose Euro 2004 . . . again) |
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Post by Storm Dancer on Jun 10, 2004 10:25:36 GMT
(Outspaced--who is preparing for England to lose Euro 2004 . . . again) When did England lose Euro 2004 before? |
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Post by The Wytch-King on Jun 10, 2004 10:57:36 GMT
Ever heard of recurring nightmares, Storm Dancer? The Wytch-King, totally innocent on that account  |
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Post by Peregrine on Jun 10, 2004 11:31:29 GMT
That said, I think a few of the 'ise's become 'izes,' and I've never been 100% what the UK English convention for punctuation in quotes is, but Australian English doesn't seem to have a set one. Nah, that's just people being slack.  There are rules--actually I'm so used to the 'right' way to place punctuation around quotes that I forget what the alternatives are. And in spelling, we do have a few more Americanisms than the UK, as a rule, what with z's and the like. Actually it's just that point that makes me a little reactionary towards possible American spellings creeping into Australian usage; I almost questioned the PAMoS usage of "recognize" over "recognise" until I confirmed that either was correct Commonwealth usage. |
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Post by Storm Dancer on Jun 10, 2004 12:03:07 GMT
Nah, that's just people being slack. There are rules--actually I'm so used to the 'right' way to place punctuation around quotes that I forget what the alternatives are. And in spelling, we do have a few more Americanisms than the UK, as a rule, what with z's and the like. Actually it's just that point that makes me a little reactionary towards possible American spellings creeping into Australian usage; I almost questioned the PAMoS usage of "recognize" over "recognise" until I confirmed that either was correct Commonwealth usage. You sure? I don't remember ever seeing it with a z... At any rate, the 'rules' for punctuation seem to vary all over the place - the one I've had most exposure to is something like in in the case of a full sentence or a broken sentence with a natural pause, otherwise out. Although out if the sentence containing the quote is phrased in such a way as to end with punctuation that has a different and greater emphasis than the end of the quote would (eg. Did you just say 'look at the dragon'?) Come to think of it, I'm not 100% sure about mid-sentence quotes that end with exclamation or question marks... I remember being told that the convention in England was to render them as commas, but has recently reverted back to the 19thC style of leaving them in the sentence ('They're invading!' came the cry). Makes more sense to me. Seems as though this place was a lucky find for a wannabe ed, anyway  |
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Post by outspaced on Jun 10, 2004 12:04:55 GMT
When did England lose Euro 2004 before? Y'know, when I wrote that, I thought to myself, 'Someone is going to pick up on that.' But then I thought: 'Outspaced,' I thought, 'you're among friends here; people will know what you mean.' My faith in human nature has once again been crushed. *sob*  |
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Post by Storm Dancer on Jun 10, 2004 12:09:57 GMT
Friends, yes. But Evil friends |
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Jun 10, 2004 13:07:23 GMT
You sure? I don't remember ever seeing it with a z... According to my spell check program, it is never spelled with a z; an i and a t are in it however. And "recognize" is the correct spelling, according to the same program, by the way. |
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Post by Storm Dancer on Jun 10, 2004 13:19:10 GMT
Karma, huh?  Is the program Word? |
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Jun 10, 2004 18:31:32 GMT
Word 97, WordPerfect Version 9, and Excel 2000 all agree--in this case, at least.
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Post by Peregrine on Jun 11, 2004 1:23:42 GMT
And are they all set to US English as the default? Both "recognise" and "recognize" are legitimate British (and hence Project Aon) spellings, but the latter is the correct US form. "It" is, to my knowledge, spelt the same in any English. |
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Post by Storm Dancer on Jun 11, 2004 4:22:54 GMT
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Microsoft products' spelling. I sometimes use them as a prompt to check the dictionary, but if they conflict with any other source I'd go with the alternative.
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Jun 11, 2004 13:17:12 GMT
And are they all set to US English as the default? Both "recognise" and "recognize" are legitimate British (and hence Project Aon) spellings, but the latter is the correct US form. "It" is, to my knowledge, spelt the same in any English. I don't know; I once saw "it" spelled r-u-t-a-b-a-g-a. And yes, it's US English, better known as "that thar thing that we talk with". |
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Jun 11, 2004 13:21:05 GMT
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Microsoft products' spelling. I sometimes use them as a prompt to check the dictionary, but if they conflict with any other source I'd go with the alternative. Actually, WordPerfect is Corel, not Microsoft. I find both to be accurate enough, once I add my real name to the dictionary. |
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Post by KLBork on Jun 15, 2004 22:23:41 GMT
Eyup miducks.
Seeyerall talkinbout thisere "Queen's English" malarky. Don'told notruck wivit ere in Nottnum. Trubleiz, theze wurdprocesses don't rekognize alfthewudz witype.
Gottagonow cuzitz nealymidniteere.
KLBjork
P.S Oxford English Dictionary (Compact 1996 edition) lists "recognize" and has "recognise" as the alternative...
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Australian English [is] closer to the Queen's English than most variants within Britain. ;D
There are rules--actually I'm so used to the 'right' way to place punctuation around quotes that I forget what the alternatives are. And in spelling, we do have a few more Americanisms than the UK, as a rule, what with z's and the like. Actually it's just that point that makes me a little reactionary towards possible American spellings creeping into Australian usage; I almost questioned the PAMoS usage of "recognize" over "recognise" until I confirmed that either was correct Commonwealth usage.
