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Post by Oiseau on Mar 23, 2012 19:36:19 GMT
It's from the epilogue to Grey Star published in one of the Lone Wolf Newsletters, I believe.
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Post by Snowshadow on Mar 23, 2012 19:52:44 GMT
It's from the epilogue to Grey Star published in one of the Lone Wolf Newsletters, I believe. Thankyou, yes page 116. Not noticed that before. BUT it doesn't say WHEN this all happens. If Grey Star sees them once only before they leave for the Plane of Light I would say that was as described in the Story So Far section of Bk 29 when the Shianti bequethe the Isle of Lorn to the Kai (Grey Star assists LW & Banedon in building the second monastery). The Shianti are still on the Isle of Lorn when the New Order Grand Master arrives Bk 22, Naar uses the Moonstone Bks 16-19 so there is no way his servants could have stolen it from the Shianti on the Plane of Light before then!
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Mar 24, 2012 8:06:22 GMT
Okaaay but where does that come from - which book/source or did you make it up? End of War of the Wizards. Check it out- it's on aon site.
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Mar 24, 2012 8:21:12 GMT
It's from the epilogue to Grey Star published in one of the Lone Wolf Newsletters, I believe. Thankyou, yes page 116. Not noticed that before. BUT it doesn't say WHEN this all happens. If Grey Star sees them once only before they leave for the Plane of Light I would say that was as described in the Story So Far section of Bk 29 when the Shianti bequethe the Isle of Lorn to the Kai (Grey Star assists LW & Banedon in building the second monastery). The Shianti are still on the Isle of Lorn when the New Order Grand Master arrives Bk 22, Naar uses the Moonstone Bks 16-19 so there is no way his servants could have stolen it from the Shianti on the Plane of Light before then! Yes, technically you could shoe-horn in the events from GW4 through NO22 in between the lines about the New Confedation magiocracy & the Shianti going up to PoL. But it's quite a stretch...
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Post by Snowshadow on Mar 24, 2012 10:55:14 GMT
I'm just trying to understand it from your point of view.
The impression I get is that you think 1. Grey Star defeats Shasarak and the Shianti take the Moonstone to the Plane of Light. 2. Naar's Agents steal the Moonstone right from under the Shianti, Ishir and everyone else on the Plane of Light. But that would mean... 3. The Shianti leave the Plane of Light and return to Lorn after the Moonstone is taken to await the Grand Master in NO22. 4. The Shianti then decide after 20 years to return to the Plane of Light in NO29.
Seems daft all that back and forth.
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Mar 24, 2012 17:01:58 GMT
I'm just trying to understand it from your point of view. The impression I get is that you think 1. Grey Star defeats Shasarak and the Shianti take the Moonstone to the Plane of Light. 2. Naar's Agents steal the Moonstone right from under the Shianti, Ishir and everyone else on the Plane of Light. But that would mean... 3. The Shianti leave the Plane of Light and return to Lorn after the Moonstone is taken to await the Grand Master in NO22. 4. The Shianti then decide after 20 years to return to the Plane of Light in NO29. Seems daft all that back and forth. I completely agree, which is why the lies of the kai are so very unbelievable. Obviously Lone Wolf was hammered on adgana again for several years & invented this nonsense about Moonstones & Shadow Gates to aggrandise himself & the kai, & justify all the resources they command! Kekataag the Avenger, Vaxagore the Dragon, Avarvae the Tormentress.... ::)couldn't he have done better than that?! Not to mention flipping out & going psycho for a bit, then blaming it on an evil alter-ego...! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Mar 25, 2012 0:47:25 GMT
Seventh, The Moonstone IncursionsOkay, the first supposed attempt to revive the long dead nemesis of Sommerlund, Archlord Vashna, founder of Helgedad & father of the giaks, at least had some evidence to support it. As in the presence of large numbers of 'foreign' troops & a few sets of red robes around Maaken. Obviously anyone with half a brain can see the real reason they were there (see the Third exposee), but it at least presents enough material to fool the casual observer. As for the second attempt however...... well, ask anyone outside of the Lastlands or Dessi about it- they will either laugh at your naivety or try & lock you up for insanity. If you recall, the official version of events surrounding the Ruanese Civil War, such as that recounted by Colonel D'Val in his memoirs, states that "it was necessary according to an ancient prophecy to sacrifice a person of royal blood on the altar at Maaken, using the black blade of Vashna himself." Note how Lone Wolf conveniently ditches all these requirements when he explains his assassination of yet another troublesome head of state attending a harmless religious ceremony. With this murder Lone Wolf reaches a new low in terms of plausiblity- we are expected to believe that Arch-druid Cadak planned to resurrect Vashna because of 'eerie lights' and bad weather! Emboldened by getting away with this latest regicide using the 'it came from a Shadow Gate' excuse, Lone Wolf proceeds in explaining every covert 'business' trip in a similar fashion. So he returns to his faithful customers the Lencians 'because an army of undead was awakened with a Shadow Gate'. He does a whistle-stop tour of North Magnamund, fleeing at high speed every time an authority objects to his intrigues 'because my monastery's in danger from dragons from a Shadow Gate'. For several years he globe-trots using this hackneyed flannel, till he gets so wasted on his adgana habit once more that he flips out, poisons the wells in Toran & tries to murder his best friend Guildmaster Banedon, having successfully murdered several of his underlings; why? 'Well it wasn't me, it was a copy of me, made by Naar on another planet & sent', yes you've guessed it, ' through a Shadow Gate'! Needless to say after this occasion the kai kept more of a low profile in North Magnamund, & if any assassination or political manipulation were needed it was left to one of the trainee Grand Masters. So unreliable has he become that the one time he did venture forth in some godforsaken Stornland conflict, rumour has it he got captured straight away & needed one of his students to rescue him! So now they just humour him & call him Supreme Panjandrum, or whatever he insists on now, while he sits in a permanent adgana stupor (the 'neverness').
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