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Post by Relenoir on Feb 26, 2005 7:20:49 GMT
Alright, so I am just about to start "Fall of Blood Mountain", which takes place almost entirely underground as far as I can tell. I've been using Valiance (+5, +8 vs. Magicians) for the entire series thus far, but am considering taking Illuminatus for this mission (+5, +7 when used underground) because of obvious reasons. Is this 'munchkiny', or would this be considered a typical move of the Kai to take any possible advantage. After all, when I go into the Ice Cave in a video game, doesn't it make sense for me to bring the Flame Sword to attack the frosty enemies with? I'd imagine this would be common sense to a warrior to bring the most effective tools along for the job. What does everyone else think?  |
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Feb 26, 2005 10:59:38 GMT
It depends on how much your Grand Master knows about the mission before leaving, I suppose. If you know that the whole mission is going to be underground, then sure, taking Illuminatus isn't munchkiny, it's just good sense. If the specifics of the mission are more vague, then you're hitting metagame territory, like those fiends who leave the Sommerswerd behind when they go hunting for the Lorestone of Tahou.
Remember: Mr. T pities the fool who leaves the Sommerswerd in Safekeeping!
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Post by Ghost Bear on Feb 26, 2005 13:22:52 GMT
It depends on your interpretation of how Kai Weapons work. In my case, I believe that each Kai Weapon is given to a particular Grand Master, and it becomes his own personal weapon. So if I were to do that, it would be munchkiny.
However, if you believe that the Monastery maintains a pool of Kai Weapons in their armoury for any Grand Master to use, then what you propose is quite reasonable.
-GB
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 26, 2005 15:52:52 GMT
It depends on your interpretation of how Kai Weapons work. In my case, I believe that each Kai Weapon is given to a particular Grand Master, and it becomes his own personal weapon. So if I were to do that, it would be munchkiny. However, if you believe that the Monastery maintains a pool of Kai Weapons in their armoury for any Grand Master to use, then what you propose is quite reasonable. -GB Well, seeing as somewhere in the NO series, I believe in #24, it says that there are only four other Grand Masters besides yourself, I would imaging that there would be some "shifting around" of weapons, and not all of them would be spoken for anyway. "Hey Nightblade, I hear your going to Boradon to the underground caverns to help save the Dwarves from Shom'zaa!" "Yeah, what about it Snowlocke?" "Well, I'm going to Dessi to help slay that group of renegade Vakeros. Would you lend me Valiance, and I'll lend you Illuminatus for the next few weeks?" "Makes sense to me. Sure!" The Grand Masters would help one another out, I'm sure. By the way, I started the book already and am most of the way through it. And yes, I brought Illuminatus with me! ;D |
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Post by outspaced on Feb 26, 2005 16:58:21 GMT
Personally, I'd agree with Ghost Bear about the weapons, but even if you decide to swap-and-change, remember that you should only really do that if your starting base is the Kai Monastery. You can't really trade in one Kai weapon for another if you're starting your mission halfway across the Province of Chai, with the bad guys from the previous gamebook hot on your heels!  |
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 26, 2005 21:11:03 GMT
Personally, I'd agree with Ghost Bear about the weapons, but even if you decide to swap-and-change, remember that you should only really do that if your starting base is the Kai Monastery. You can't really trade in one Kai weapon for another if you're starting your mission halfway across the Province of Chai, with the bad guys from the previous gamebook hot on your heels! Absolutely agree with that! That would be almost as cheesy as putting the Sommerswerd into safekeeping in the middle of the Magnakai series, with a few possible exceptions: 1) Start the series without the SS, then it is brought to you at the beginning of book 9 by Banedon. 2) Put the SS into safekeeping for either book 7, book 8, or both since you start and end each book in Dessi. 3) Put the SS into safekeeping at the end of book 9, sending to Sommerlund with Banedon because you feel it is like a big old neon sign with an arrow pointing below it that says "Lone Wolf: here!" on Gnaag's world map. Then you could get it back at the beginning of book 12. These are the only plausible points at which this action could be undertaken, but I still don't think LW would ever leave the Sommerswerd behind. He still carries it in the NO series, not having returned it to Durenor in favor of Skarn-ska.  For book 27, it's back to Valiance, and of course I'll be continuing with that choice through book 28! |
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Post by Zipp on Feb 27, 2005 1:38:40 GMT
Um, what is the FALL OF BLOOD MNT?
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Post by Peregrine on Feb 27, 2005 3:16:01 GMT
"Fall of Blood Mountain" is one of the New Order Grand Master books (number 26, I believe). The Dwarves of Bor have dug too deep in search of Korlinium, and have started digging up the magical Korlinium prison of the Shom'Zaa, a minion of Agarash. The Elder Magi are sort of unhappy about their ancient handiwork being undone, and so they hatch a plan to fix the situation. And Rimoah comes a-knocking at the Kai Monastery to find someone capable of getting down there and doing it.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 27, 2005 9:13:39 GMT
Um, what is the FALL OF BLOOD MNT? Yes, Peregrine is correct. Book 26, with a very nice preview shown above.  |
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Post by outspaced on Feb 27, 2005 10:20:17 GMT
The Dwarves of Bor have dug too deep in search of Korlinium, and have started digging up the magical Korlinium prison of the Shom'Zaa, a minion of Agarash. *ring ring* Hello? . . . You're Mr Tolkien's lawyers, you say? . . . Why no, sir, I've never heard of this Horde of the Lings. Whatever are you talking about? ;D |
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 27, 2005 23:43:17 GMT
Yes, very reminiscent of the Mines of Moria in Fellowship, isn't it? Mithril or Korlinium, Balrog or Shom'zaa, take your pick--they're dwarves in both cases. . .  |
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Post by Zipp on Feb 28, 2005 0:23:41 GMT
I think we just have to except that Dwarves the universe over are constantly doing stupid stuff like this. Part of their character, I guess, to dig up ancient evils.
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Post by North Star on Feb 28, 2005 1:09:03 GMT
Actually, Mythril is the vile FFwhatever name. Tolkien's actual name was "mithril", from the same root as "Mithrandir", the Elven name for Gandalf (meaning "Grey Wanderer" or similar).
NS.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 28, 2005 2:34:05 GMT
Actually, Mythril is the vile FFwhatever name. Tolkien's actual name was "mithril", from the same root as "Mithrandir", the Elven name for Gandalf (meaning "Grey Wanderer" or similar). NS. Blah!  You're right! Mithril, Mythril, Mithral, I can't keep track. Seen it spelled so many darn ways! Fixed my post. Thanks NS. |
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Post by outspaced on Feb 28, 2005 11:56:12 GMT
And not Milrith, which was the clever name of the special metal ore used in the computer game Simon the Sorcerer. |
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You're right! Mithril, Mythril, Mithral, I can't keep track. Seen it spelled so many darn ways! Fixed my post. Thanks NS.