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Post by shadowfalcon on Aug 3, 2005 10:34:27 GMT
Just wondering since the lore stones seem to have the knowledge of the Kai locked up in them and transfer that knowledge to you during the game.
What would peoples take be on gaining the extra discipline as you gain a Magnakai stone in game
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Post by North Star on Aug 3, 2005 12:40:47 GMT
Well, navigating past some of the terrible typing, LW gained the Disciplines in lieu of training from his non-existent masters. Considering that the Lorestones also take a long time to recharge, it would not exactly be fast!
NS.
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Post by Al on Aug 3, 2005 12:47:32 GMT
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Post by shadowfalcon on Aug 3, 2005 13:43:56 GMT
Sorry I fixed the spelling I was kind of half a sleep when I wrote that lol.
What I meant anyhow was say you gain the discipline as you pick up the Lorestone.
As otherwise it doesn't seem to make sense. Why does it take training with some and not with others i.e. when you find the lodestone that Vonotar dropped or the one you gain in Torgar, you pretty much gain the benefits of it straight away since the time between that and next book is pretty much straight away in time sense so it makes sense to me to gain a Magnakai discipline when you gain a Lorestone
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Post by Al on Aug 3, 2005 14:34:31 GMT
I agree with you, but like i said above, this debate has been done to death, I tried to put up a valiant fight, but the more senior people here proved my wrong  al |
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Post by shadowfalcon on Aug 3, 2005 14:52:26 GMT
hehe well this is the way i play the magnakai series as its the only way that feels right to me i play the standard way with the kai and grand master however
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Post by Dusk Fox on Aug 3, 2005 15:11:09 GMT
Okay, here's the reason. I'm going to say it again because... well... whatever. Because I feel like saying it again.
No matter how you try to rationalize and explain it away, the answer is "You gain one discipline per completed adventure after the initial few disciplines you start with." That's how it works, that's how it is, that's the story. It really doesn't have anything to do with the Lorestones, since you find them at various points in your adventures and don't get a discipline from them immediately, and you don't get a discipline at all from the last one.
If you want to rationalize it to yourself, great. Just don't expect to end up with a logical conclusion, because there isn't one.
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Post by Al on Aug 3, 2005 15:34:21 GMT
See, they get you every time.
Al
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Post by artichu on Aug 3, 2005 19:25:11 GMT
And it does make sense; I don't think Lone Wolf still needs training (that is, needs three to six months of hitting the books and practicing exercises) to use a Lorestone-gained Discipline, but he probably needs a few days of rest and quiet to let the knowledge percolate through his head and figure out how to use it. At least, it doesn't make sense to me that he could just grab the Lorestone and suddenly, instantly know all there is to know about Weaponmastery. The mind-blowing experience of traveling through the Daziarn portal and the extreme stress associated with that might be enough to get him to learn the Discipline from that one Lorestone early.
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Post by Black Cat on Aug 3, 2005 21:58:16 GMT
No matter how you try to rationalize and explain it away, the answer is "You gain one discipline per completed adventure after the initial few disciplines you start with." Coming from the "the cheatingest cheater in Magnamund", it's hard to believe that you don't break this rule!  |
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Post by Dusk Fox on Aug 3, 2005 22:20:09 GMT
Who says I don't? I mean, in my initial run-through of the books, I just happened to have every discipline. I didn't even worry about the Lorestones.
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Post by North Star on Aug 3, 2005 22:21:24 GMT
Yes... well, I guess it's like playing games with all the cheats on just to see how you can do. Then again, I have always preferred a challenge to any game, so I almost never cheat (or at least, if I do, it's usually low-key and easy to replicate legally).
NS.
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Post by Al on Aug 4, 2005 8:18:18 GMT
I have always preferred a challenge to any game, so I almost never cheat (or at least, if I do, it's usually low-key and easy to replicate legally). Not that I have anything against DFing your way through a book, but cheating is cheating. You cannot cheat just a little, you either do or you do not, it is like being a little bit pregnant!! Although i agree that the challenge is what makes it interesting. Al |
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Post by North Star on Aug 4, 2005 12:01:12 GMT
Well, like in Morrowind, which I've played endlessly, I like to soultrap my stats slightly or give myself permanent water breathing or maybe 10,000 gold. Then I don't need to start from square one again!
NS.
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Post by Al on Aug 4, 2005 13:07:33 GMT
Like I said, I have no problems with it, just played LW1 and do you think I kept that 1 I rolled for CS? Probably not... Al |
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