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Post by Zipp on Feb 15, 2005 17:18:41 GMT
Huh? How does this work?
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 25, 2005 21:25:43 GMT
There is also the little issue raised by the Novels regarding the cathedral of Tekaro. If the novel is taken as true there should be a Sommerswerd and the lorestone of Varetta lying next to the rotting corpse of Lone Wolf and a deceased Dakomyd. Would there be any benefit to retrieving that as well? (ie are 8 better than 7 if two are the same?) No, the novel should not be taken as true. Any time the novels contradict the gamebooks, throw that difference (but not the book, those are valuable!) right in the trash! Extremely complicated, and a bit of a disappointing end to an otherwise very well-written LW novel in the Legends series. Possible spoilers ahead! Basically, There was this scene at the end of "The Lorestone of Varetta" after Lone Wolf fought the Dakomyd. As he defeated it and grasped the lorestone, it fell on him and crushed him. He then had a dream-sequence with his newest 'gestalt' of sorts, this time it was a woman that enhances his affinity with animals rather than an old man gestalt that he melds with when he uses the Sommerswerd. The dream sequence ended at "one possible reality", and it left him standing in a field on his way to get the next lorestone. I thought it was almost (but not quite) as bad as the final chapter in "The Sacrifice of Ruanon". |
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Post by Ghost Bear on Feb 25, 2005 21:37:47 GMT
Yes, that was a severe WTF moment for me too. -GB |
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Post by Zipp on Feb 25, 2005 21:48:34 GMT
Yeah that blows. I mean, it's an idea, and one that could work, but not with the already established ending and writing style of Dever. Dare I ask what happens at the end of the Sacrifice of Ruanon?
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Post by North Star on Feb 25, 2005 23:21:49 GMT
That's the infamous and apocryphal techno-epilogue, written by an ageing truck-driving professor many thousands of years later.
I actually *liked* it, but Joe really doesn't and finally agreed to let it in the book and apparently has regretted it evr since.
NS.
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Post by Zipp on Feb 25, 2005 23:35:36 GMT
Any further information on this one? Maybe something a bit more specific? I mean, this is sorta mind boggling for anyone who hasn't read it.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 25, 2005 23:51:37 GMT
Any further information on this one? Maybe something a bit more specific? I mean, this is sorta mind boggling for anyone who hasn't read it. That's a long, convoluted story, my friend. Something to tell at another time, unless I can find the thread it was mentioned in months back. I'll have to look. |
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Post by outspaced on Feb 26, 2005 10:37:13 GMT
The cack ending to The Sacrifice of Ruanon has only a tenuous link to the actual novel. If I remember correctly ** SPOILERS ** it's set a few hundred years after Lone Wolf and is told in first person by a university professor researching the legends and myths about Lone Wolf. (I think he is a lecturer at Toran's "Crystal Star" University or something?) Anyway, he stops off at a roadside diner where he hears tell of an old man living in a cave by the Maakengorge. He eventually finds this old man who is called SYLAS (hmm . . .) who tells him with smugness about the "legends", hinting that they might actually have been true. (Shock. Horror.) And apparently, Madelon was so traumatised that after being saved, she committed suicide.The Sacrifice of Ruanon is also rubbish because Lone Wolf is useless throughout. Q******, Viveka, Petra, even the "Crazies" of Ruanon are all important for saving the world; Lone Wolf doesn't actually DO anything!  What's the point of that? A definite low point in the series. |
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Feb 26, 2005 10:44:21 GMT
Hmmm. I remember really, really liking the end of The Lorestone of Varetta, precisely because of the bizarre metaphysical stuff.
On the whole, I get the feeling that I'm one of the few people who is glad that Grant made changes from the gamebooks. I'd already read the gamebooks. I wanted something a little different, and was pleased with what I got.
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Post by North Star on Feb 26, 2005 18:24:27 GMT
Well except for Thrud the Barbarian and Mary Sue, the Cosmic Entity of Doom, I quite liked the series too.
NS.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 26, 2005 21:14:41 GMT
Well except for Thrud the Barbarian and Mary Sue, the Cosmic Entity of Doom, I quite liked the series too. NS. Thog was the barbarian's name, unless you're making a funny that went over my head. . .  All characters in the Legends books brought a little bit of enjoyment to the series. Some when they appeared, others when they were written out. . .  And they know who they are! ;D |
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Post by North Star on Feb 27, 2005 22:04:12 GMT
Thrud the Barbarian was a character from the 80s White Dwarfs, who was probably half-ogre and certainly less intelligent. He just loomed everywhere and hardly ever spoke.
It wasn't even that good a cartoon strip.
NS.
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Post by Relenoir on Feb 27, 2005 23:47:42 GMT
Thrud the Barbarian was a character from the 80s White Dwarfs, who was probably half-ogre and certainly less intelligent. He just loomed everywhere and hardly ever spoke. It wasn't even that good a cartoon strip. NS. Oh, okay. Thanks for enlightening those of us (me  ) who were in the dark.  |
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Post by North Star on Feb 28, 2005 1:10:32 GMT
It makes a change to get a Brit reference in! Normally on comedies, there's a quick-fire exchange of humour, half of which is impossibly American!! NS. Edit: Corrected an errant comma. (Yes, I'm that conscientious.) N.B. Had no less than FIVE typos in the one edit, including, appropriately, EDIOT. N.B. Added FOUR more errors just typing the N.B. and TWO more when doing this one. |
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Post by longhairyuppiescum on Feb 28, 2005 15:28:21 GMT
Thrud the Barbarian! - He was just - *great* - ! ;D
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) who were in the dark. 