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Post by xyrxtond on Jun 30, 2005 2:42:06 GMT
Hi I just found this website today and I really want to thank all of you who put this website together, I've been a huge Lone Wolf fan since I was about eight but by the time I got to "The Masters of Darkness" all the Lone Wolf books were out of print. This site has really my childhood hopes of becoming a true Kai master a reality.
My first question has be bugging me since I first started reading the books and it regards hunting, how do I know when I can hunt or not (because I know in certain sections of books you can't or the entirety of the third book.) And must I be out of meals before I use the hunting skill.
My second question is about the stat tracker on this website. I've downloaded it and tried to get it to work with "Flight from the Dark" offline but am having absolutely no luck whatsoever with.
Thank you again for creating this website, and a special thanks to Joe Dever and all the artists for allowing this to happen.
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Post by Dusk Fox on Jun 30, 2005 3:49:05 GMT
Welcome to the board, xyrxtond.
For your first question... well, you don't need to wait until your meals are gone to use Hunting. Use it whenever you like, so long as you're allowed.
As for when it's allowed, most of the time it's allowed when it isn't expressly forbidden. There are plenty of places (like Kalte) where you can't use Hunting to scrounge up food (though it makes up for this by saving your ass multiple times). Mostly it's a matter of common sense--you can't use it when there's nothing around to be hunted (in the middle of a city, in the frozen desert, up in the sky, on a rowboat in the middle of nowhere).
As for your second question... I can't help you. Sorry.
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Post by Black Cat on Jun 30, 2005 4:11:18 GMT
Mostly it's a matter of common sense--you can't use it when there's nothing around to be hunted (in the middle of a city, in the frozen desert, up in the sky, on a rowboat in the middle of nowhere). You gave bad examples: there's always food that you can find in these places. In the middle of a city: either you eat a passing dog, either you enter the first restaurant on the street In a frozen desert: snow is a great thing to eat. Isn't there a man that you find the ruins of a city that survived nearly a week by eating snow in book 15? Up in the sky: the first bird that passes by will be your lunch...but then, how in the world a Kai Lord can fly? Oh yeah, right, dwarves and skyship... Ok forget it: you just ask a dwarve to give you bor brew and you'll be okay. Rowboat in the middle of nowhere: errrrr...if you are on the water, then you can try fishing. If you are really in the middle of nowhere, then eat your boots! And yes, welcome xyrxtond!  |
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Post by Dusk Fox on Jun 30, 2005 4:16:48 GMT
Okay, if you're not totally crazy like Black Cat and think that it's okay to eat dog, go "sky fishing," eat deliciously nutritious snow for two weeks, and carry a fishing pole hidden in your arse, then the examples that I gave are valid.
As for eating snow, it actually consumes more energy than it gives. The heat it takes to melt the snow back into water requires more energy than the water would actually give you.
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Post by outspaced on Jun 30, 2005 9:38:59 GMT
Book 1: Hunting can be used in lieu of a Meal up to the approach to Holmgard when you get the options of the road, the river, or the Graveyard of the Ancients. Book 2: Hunting cannot be used in lieu of a Meal until Lone Wolf leaves Gorn Cove (before this point he is either at sea, in a city, or in the Wildlands). Book 3: Hunting may not be used in lieu of a Meal. Book 4: Hunting may not be used in lieu of a Meal in the mines or during the siege of Ruanon. Book 5: Hunting may not be used in lieu of a Meal. From Book 6 onwards, I would say that Magnakai Lone Wolf can use his Hunting skills to bypass a Meal in any natural situation (i.e. not in a settlement or underground). Specific places where Hunting cannot be used would be Kazan-Oud (Book 7), Tahou/The Cauldron (Book 9) The Neverness (Book 11) and The Darklands (Book 12). From Book 13 onwards, Hunting can be used in lieu of a Meal at all times. That's the way I play it, I hope it doesn't seem too arbitrary. As far as the program, I guess you're talking about LWAC (The Lone Wolf Action Chart) rather than Statskeeper? To get LWAC to work, you need the latest version of Java installed. The get the downloaded LWAC file, which should be a ZIP or a BZ2 file (both are archives of the same thing; you don't need both). Unarchive the file to a new folder, then double-click the file called lwac.jar. If Java is properly installed, this should automatically launch java and run. If not, ask here again!  Hope it helps, and welcome to the forum. |
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Post by Doomy on Jun 30, 2005 10:40:20 GMT
I usually don't use Hunting to find food if I already have some in my backpack. It just seems more realistic to eat what you've already got, only resorting to Disciplines when that runs out.
Starvation is pretty much the least of Lone Wolf's worries anyway - the earlier books usually have plenty food lying about and in the later ones your skills have reached the point where you can find food anywhere. By that point, you'll probably still be using spare backpack slots for food, but dumping the Meals when you find something more useful.
As far as I know the only part of the entire Lone Wolf series where fatal starvation is a real possibility is the small maze sequence in Flight From The Dark, and even then you basically have to commit suicide by looping between sections which instruct you to eat.
Okay, so if you scrape through a fight with no more than 3EP, and somehow don't have Healing, Hunting, Laumspur or Meals, you might be in trouble but my personal experience shows that Lone Wolf is still more likely to be killed by a falling mast than lack of food.
One thing I've always wondered about - why doesn't starvation also affect your CS?
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Post by Al on Jun 30, 2005 13:11:56 GMT
As for eating snow, it actually consumes more energy than it gives. The heat it takes to melt the snow back into water requires more energy than the water would actually give you. That is very true, one of the first arctic survival things you learn is that you do not eat snow, it is a bad idea. If you are thirsty, melt it first somehow. Al |
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Post by Doomy on Jun 30, 2005 14:14:01 GMT
Before melting it, examine your snow. If it's yellow, best leave it alone.
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Post by Al on Jun 30, 2005 15:20:23 GMT
Yes, the second rule of arctic survival1
Al
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Post by Dusk Fox on Jun 30, 2005 15:54:27 GMT
Before melting it, examine your snow. If it's yellow, best leave it alone. But, hey... if it's all you've got to eat, it's probably more nutritious. In the words of Tyler Durden in his public service announcement, "Did you know that urine is sterile? You can drink it." Oh, and I agree with Outspaced's estimation for when you can Hunt and when you can't. That seems reasonable to me. |
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Post by artichu on Jul 14, 2005 10:47:10 GMT
Before melting it, examine your snow. If it's yellow, best leave it alone. But, hey... if it's all you've got to eat, it's probably more nutritious. In the words of Tyler Durden in his public service announcement, "Did you know that urine is sterile? You can drink it." Oh, and I agree with Outspaced's estimation for when you can Hunt and when you can't. That seems reasonable to me. It's sterile but it's toxic. That's why your body is getting rid of it in the first place -- it's flushing out the poisons that build up from metabolizing protein. Even so, your body plays it safe and, if you're well-hydrated, dilutes the urea with enough water so that it's safe to drink. The figure I've read is that you can cycle urine through your body seven times (without drinking any water) before it gets too concentrated to be safe. (Probably takes some discipline to make yourself do it; I'd say Kai Grand Huntmastery at the least.) It won't give you any nutrition besides water, of course, unless you're either diabetic or have a bleeding bladder, in which case you've got bigger problems. Grand Huntmastery Lone Wolf really does defy all bounds of normal biology with his ability to feed himself underground, in cities, in the frozen wastes of Ixia, standing in the lifeless shadows of the Daziarn plane... I have a theory that Grand Huntmastery is just another way of saying what I always do with Lone Wolf anyway -- he uses his magic Healing abilities to gain back the tissues he loses from starvation and feed himself by magic. (Look, it's easier than keeping track of where he lost the EP, okay?) |
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