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Post by Sol on Dec 24, 2004 18:07:20 GMT
Scarecrow,
Ha ha, I usually just skim Book 1 these days... are you kidding? Book 1 NEVER gets old - it is SUPERCOOL! OK, sometimes it gets redundant, but I find Book 3 and 4 more annoying because you have to roll so many random numbers (this splits up my party into 4-6 little groups, and that's just nuts!).
Re: The Spear - yeah, probably cheating! I always used to allow myself a do-over, though, and it is VERY unfair that you try to save Rhygar and then die yourself. OOPS! I bet you won't make that mistake next time, though! But 7 times in Book 1? That's harsh, man. There is an EASY path through Book 1. Wish I took it this time! Of course, you will probably die LOTS before you figure it out by trial and error. Don't give up! With 7 deaths, you must know Book 1 pretty well by now! And take some notes - even Joe suggests this under Kai Wisdom, so I don't consider it to be a cheat.
Sol
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Post by Sol on Dec 24, 2004 18:15:28 GMT
Zipp,
Uh oh - playing through Book 1 and a Kai has died already. It was: Timid Bear with a CS of 11. His death:
"You have taken less than ten paces when the raven squawks a warning to the stranger. Turning to face you, the robed creature utters a piercing screech that freezes your blood and grips your stomach with fear and panic. It is a Vordak, a lieutenant of the Darklords and one of the undead. Within seconds, a host of Giaks appear at its side and attack you. You fight bravely but you are greatly outnumbered.
"The last thing you remember is the icy grasp of the Vordak's skeletal fingers as they close around your throat.
"Your life and your mission end here."
Other Kai I have known:
Bold Heart (Savant): Fell from the sky into the salt-plain
Hunting Jackal (Kai Master Superior): Killed by a Cutpurse in Varetta
Night Dancer (Guardian): Died by Kalkoth Bite
Red Hawk (Aspirant): Died in Captain Kelman's Quarters by poison trap
Silent Wolf (Kai Grand Defender): Electrocuted in a Cenerese Prison Cell
Sparrow (Guardian): Died is Kalte in a 100-foot fall
Steady Bull (JourneyMarn): Killed by a sniper's arrow
Sun Dancer (Guardian): Killed by the Kalkoth
Swift Blade (Savant): Killed by Haakon
Swift Star (Guardian): Killed by Kalkoth
Wise Dancer (Savant): Fell from the sky into the salt-plain
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Post by Zipp on Dec 24, 2004 19:01:20 GMT
Well, at least Wise Dancer had company:
BOLD HEART Hey! Look who it is!
WISE DANCER Bold Heart! You old dog! What are you doing here?
BOLD HEART Oh, you know, falling to my doom like everyone else.
WISE DANCER Yeah, but you try not to think about that. Tea?
BOLD HEART Oh defenitely. Thank you. So... how are the kids?
By the way, I'll be in Portland for a few days, so my posting may be limited.
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Post by Sol on Dec 24, 2004 19:17:23 GMT
Zipp,
Ha ha, I loved that! And oh yeah:
Rock Horse was strangled to Death by the Burrowcrawler. I guess he was too weak after fighting that Vordak!
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Post by Sol on Dec 24, 2004 20:29:46 GMT
NEW UPDATE: KAI-TEAM-TEN Progress
My goal: to finish all 20 books without cheating. ALPHA TEAM Completed: Shadow on the Sand BETA TEAM Completed: Flight From the Dark
Alpha Kai Remaining: 4 (soon to start Book 6) Beta Kai Remaining: 8 (soon to start Book 2)
Lost in Sommerlund: 2 Lost in Kalte: 3 Lost in Vassagonia: 3
Important Progress: None really, excited though about having 5 Kai with CS 20 or higher, however.
House Rules: One Kai (Swift Dancer) drank a Lamspur Potion *during* combat to avoid dying. Have not needed to do this for any other Kai, so the strict interpretationalist will find the remaining 3 characters to be book-legal.
Tweaks: ***I allow myself to count all Keys as Special Items when the text does not specify. ***I allow myself to keep Weapon-Like-Special-Items in a Weapons-slot if desired. ***I allow myself unlimited Special Items until the Rule-of-Twelve appears (is this book 8?) ***I will allow Lone Wolf to do "Dual Weapons" when he becomes a Magnakai (but no "stacking" of WS with WM)... in this case, shield will grant no further bonus. ***I will allow myself to keep items in Safe Keeping as soon as the Monostary is finished (Special Items, Backpack items, Gold).
Survived: Brave Star, Storm Heart, Sun Friend, Avatarus, Death Wren, Fight Lord, Fleet Foot, Paragon, Razor Hawk, Satan-Kai, Spirit Strike Survived with House Rules: Swift Dancer
Killed by Vordak: Timid Bear Killed by BurrowCrawler: Rock Horse
Best CS: Sun Friend (33) Worst CS: Death Wren (14)
NOTES and SPOILERS:
Usually after seeing Banedon and trying to escape the Giaks, I try to go up the hill and futz around. This time I went for the woods and now I remember why I never go that way... the Vordak! This cost me dearly. I lost one Kai who decided to sneak up on him and one was so badly beaten in this fight that he couldn't survive a Burrowcrawler falling on his head. The rest of the book was pretty standard... nothing else deadly, sorry Zipp!
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Post by Sol on Dec 24, 2004 22:39:28 GMT
NEW UPDATE: KAI-TEAM-TEN Progress My goal: to finish all 20 books without cheating. ALPHA TEAM Completed: Shadow on the Sand BETA TEAM Completed: Fire on the Water Alpha Kai Remaining: 4 (soon to start Book 6) Beta Kai Remaining: 7 (soon to start Book 3) Lost in Sommerlund: 2 Lost in Durenor: 1 Lost in Kalte: 3 Lost in Vassagonia: 3 Important Progress: Have the Sommerswerd for Beta-Team Kai House Rules: One Kai (Swift Dancer) drank a Lamspur Potion *during* combat to avoid dying. Have not needed to do this for any other Kai, so the strict interpretationalist will find the remaining 3 characters to be book-legal. Tweaks: ***I allow myself to count all Keys as Special Items when the text does not specify. ***I allow myself to keep Weapon-Like-Special-Items in a Weapons-slot if desired. ***I allow myself unlimited Special Items until the Rule-of-Twelve appears (is this book 8?) ***I will allow Lone Wolf to do "Dual Weapons" when he becomes a Magnakai (but no "stacking" of WS with WM)... in this case, shield will grant no further bonus. ***I will allow myself to keep items in Safe Keeping as soon as the Monostary is finished (Special Items, Backpack items, Gold). Survived: Brave Star, Storm Heart, Sun Friend, Avatarus, Death Wren, Fight Lord, Fleet Foot, Paragon, Razor Hawk, Spirit Strike Survived with House Rules: Swift Dancer Killed in Durenor: Satan-Kai Best CS: Sun Friend (33) Worst CS: Fleet Foot (24) NOTES and SPOILERS: Satan-Kai's big mistakes: Gambling with Kelman and losing (even with Sixth Sense) and then buying a 6 GP Warhammer in Ragadorn (this was his Weaponskill Weapon). This left him exactly 20 GP - just enough for a Port Bax Ticket. Why didn't I have him buy a cheaper weapon? Why? For want of 1 silly GP, he dies:
www.projectaon.org/xhtml/lw/02fotw/sect213.htm
Next: the Return to Kalte
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Post by Darkash on Dec 24, 2004 23:12:23 GMT
Hunting Jackal (Kai Master Superior): Killed by a Cutpurse in Varetta You know, there's a way to avoid ever seeing that cutpurse. Know what it is?
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Post by Sol on Dec 25, 2004 0:15:22 GMT
Darkash,
That sounds like a secret worth knowing! Does it have something to do with less gambling? Please tell!
Sol
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Post by Sol on Dec 25, 2004 0:29:19 GMT
KAI-TEAM-TEN Progress
My goal: to finish all 20 books without cheating. ALPHA TEAM Completed: Shadow on the Sand BETA TEAM Completed: Caverns of Kalte
Alpha Kai Remaining: 4 (soon to start Book 6) Beta Kai Remaining: 5 (soon to start Book 4)
Lost in Sommerlund: 2 Lost in Durenor: 1 Lost in Kalte: 5 Lost in Vassagonia: 3
Important Progress: Have the Silver Helm and the Alether +4 for Beta-Team
House Rules: One Kai (Swift Dancer) drank a Lamspur Potion *during* combat to avoid dying. Have not needed to do this for any other Kai, so the strict interpretationalist will find the remaining 3 characters to be book-legal.
Tweaks: ***I allow myself to count all Keys as Special Items when the text does not specify. ***I allow myself to keep Weapon-Like-Special-Items in a Weapons-slot if desired. ***I allow myself unlimited Special Items until the Rule-of-Twelve appears (is this book 8?) ***I will allow Lone Wolf to do "Dual Weapons" when he becomes a Magnakai (but no "stacking" of WS with WM)... in this case, shield will grant no further bonus. ***I will allow myself to keep items in Safe Keeping as soon as the Monostary is finished (Special Items, Backpack items, Gold).
Survived: Brave Star, Storm Heart, Sun Friend, Avatarus, Fight Lord, Fleet Foot, Paragon, Razor Hawk Survived with House Rules: Swift Dancer
Killed by Kalkoth: Death Wren Drowned in Freezing Water: Spirit Strike
Best CS: Paragon (35) Worst CS: Fleet Foot (24)
NOTES and SPOILERS:
Wow, can't believe I lost 2 more! The dice can be cruel. Death Wren was separated from the rest by random roll. This meant that he somehow ended up without a BlueStone Triangle and the Kalkoth came and ate him at the base of Ikaya.
As for Spirit Strike, his loss was worse. That's because his CS was so hefty (32, 18 base). (Section 284). A +4 was needed to pass the ice floes... I rolled a 1. Even with a +2 for Hunting, it was down into the icy water... one last chance in Section 94, but failed again with an "8"... then Death, sweet icy release.
Amazingly, I will not now have 10 Magnakai in Book 6. The most I can have would be 9... still 2 books to go though! Will I need a Delta Team?
Question of the Day: "How many Kai DOES it take to get to the tootsie-roll center of a tootsie-roll?
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Post by Sol on Dec 25, 2004 3:00:24 GMT
KAI-TEAM-TEN Progress
My goal: to finish all 20 books without cheating. ALPHA TEAM Completed: Shadow on the Sand BETA TEAM Completed: The Chasm of Doom
Alpha Kai Remaining: 4 (soon to start Book 6) Beta Kai Remaining: 4 (soon to start Book 5)
Lost in Sommerlund: 3 Lost in Durenor: 1 Lost in Kalte: 5 Lost in Vassagonia: 3
Important Progress: None yet
House Rules: One Kai (Swift Dancer) drank a Lamspur Potion *during* combat to avoid dying. Have not needed to do this for any other Kai, so the strict interpretationalist will find the remaining 3 characters to be book-legal.
Tweaks: ***I allow myself to count all Keys as Special Items when the text does not specify. ***I allow myself to keep Weapon-Like-Special-Items in a Weapons-slot if desired. ***I allow myself unlimited Special Items until the Rule-of-Twelve appears (is this book 8?) ***I will allow Lone Wolf to do "Dual Weapons" when he becomes a Magnakai (but no "stacking" of WS with WM)... in this case, shield will grant no further bonus. ***I will allow myself to keep items in Safe Keeping as soon as the Monostary is finished (Special Items, Backpack items, Gold).
Survived: Brave Star, Storm Heart, Sun Friend, Avatarus, Fight Lord, Fleet Foot, Paragon Survived with House Rules: Swift Dancer
Assassinated by Sniper: Razor Hawk
Best CS: Paragon (35) Worst CS: Fleet Foot (24)
NOTES and SPOILERS:
Running toward the fluttering Sun-Flag, Razor-Hawk rolled the insta-death for Book 4. The remaining 4 continue, soon to join up with the Alpha Team.
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Post by Sol on Dec 25, 2004 3:15:50 GMT
Some guy a while back said that the Kai Series is a Cake-Walk once you get the Sommerswerd. I'm not so sure anymore!!!
Sol
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Post by Sol on Dec 25, 2004 4:51:32 GMT
KAI-TEAM-TEN Progress
My goal: to finish all 20 books without cheating. Both Teams Completed: Shadow on the Sand
Total Kai Remaining: 7 (soon to start Book 6)
Lost in Sommerlund: 3 Lost in Durenor: 1 Lost in Kalte: 5 Lost in Vassagonia: 4
Important Progress: Jewelled Maces
Survived: Brave Star, Storm Heart, Sun Friend, Avatarus, Fight Lord, Paragon Survived with House Rules: Swift Dancer
Died falling from the sky: Fleet Foot
Best CS: Paragon (35) Worst CS: Fight Lord (31)
NOTES and SPOILERS:
Fleet Foot: Down he goes to join the others in the Petrified Salt Lake. What is that thing, a Kai Magnet? And why can't I use Healing on the Ikitar?
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 25, 2004 8:56:44 GMT
Celebrate Good Times, C'MON!
My Lone Wolf is on fire. He's smashed through castle Death, and all those preceding, while barely breaking a sweat.
Original CS: 19 + Lore Circle of the Spirit + Sommerswerd + Shield + Mindblast
Current Combat Skill of 34
I've noticed that Nexus, Psi-shield and Psi-Surge (I risked going without Curing) are VERY useful in the first half of Castle Death.
Just 5 books to go...
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 26, 2004 2:42:15 GMT
Made it through the Jungle of Horrors and Tahou okay... but while fighting the Zakhan, did another thing some may consider "cheating."
I'd left the Sommerswerd at home to avoid an impossible fight, and was given the option of using either my Psychic Ring or Dagger of Vashna - I had both. Now, Psychic Ring option was at the top, and I assumed you could use that, THEN the dagger of Vashna.
You can't. You have to fight him, and it's still a near-impossible battle.
So I flicked back one page, didn't use the Psychic Ring, and instead just shish-kebabed his heart with Vashna's Dagger.
Cheating or not?
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 27, 2004 2:56:11 GMT
Okay, I got through book #10 alright (although I had no idea about the TWO 40 CS fights that await you at the battle for Cetza), but I brought the Sommerswerd with me.
No idea what the Chaos Master's CS is, but my own current one is 36. Add Psi-Surge and it becomes 40. Add my good old kalte Alether and it becomes 44.
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