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Post by Tiefling on Mar 18, 2005 5:09:19 GMT
Does Joe Dever have any plans to re-release his Combat Heroes books in any format? Those were the Scarlet Sorcerer/Emerald Enchanter, and Black Baron/White Warlord books.
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Post by Zipp on Mar 18, 2005 5:43:55 GMT
Ah, a friend of the Camarilla, I see. May the rats never feast on your eyes. In answer to your question. I don't believe so, not at all. However, you can purchase them online at both abebooks: www.abebooks.com/And occasionally lairs: www.lairs.com/tomehoard/ch01-2.htm(you know, at one point in time he was going to do three more books, but it fell through. Maybe if you ask him real nice, he'll let Project Aon do it...)
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Post by outspaced on Mar 18, 2005 10:23:00 GMT
Hi Tiefling, welcome to the forums.
Currently, Joe hasn't mentioned the four Combat Heroes books to Project Aon, but if anyone would like to scan the pages in, I would certainly have a go at creating a PDF of the books. I don't think he would mind Project Aon looking into releasing them because they have been out of print for so long, and there's no chance of them ever coming back into print (unlike the New Order series, for which we all live in hope).
Personally, I'd love to see the Combat Heroes books available for download, particularly since the paper the books were originally printed on was just about the cheapest Beaver Books could find. A new, cleaned up digital version would obviously be of a higher standard and quality.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 18, 2005 10:56:37 GMT
I have a couple of them, I think Black Baron and one of the wizard ones. Used to have the others, too. I may be getting a scanner, but I don't know whether it's a feed-through or a flat-scan type like a photocopier, so may be able to help. Have to look at it this weekend, a friend told me yesterday he's selling a brand-new, never-out-of-the-box HP for $50. We shall see. . .
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Post by outspaced on Mar 18, 2005 14:32:12 GMT
@ Rel: Cool! Could bode well for Project Aon! :-)
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Mar 18, 2005 17:17:48 GMT
I have Black Baron somewhere in my library, but my access to a working scanner varies.
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Post by Tiefling on Mar 18, 2005 19:30:37 GMT
Hiya, thanks for the welcome. I'm quite grateful for the work Project Aon has put forth (and the generosity of Joe Dever), as it has let me re-read all of the Lone Wolf / Grey Star books.
I actually own the SS/EE combo, but they're buried in a box somewhere. And I own a fairly decent HP scanner. However, even if I could locate the books, it wouldn't be of value. I distinctly remember that the version of EE that I owned was flawed --- it was published with half of the pages from SS. When playing as the EE, you would turn to, say, page 204, and see a picture from the SS book instead of the EE book.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 19, 2005 4:34:53 GMT
@ Rel: Cool! Could bode well for Project Aon! :-) Here's hoping so, he'll be bringing it in to work tomorrow for me to check out. Hope it's the flat kind, not the feed kind. ;D @ Tiefling: Too bad about your flawed book, that sucks. They often show up on eBay cheap if you are looking to get an accurate copy.
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 19, 2005 7:12:18 GMT
I have complete, unflawed copies of Combat Heroes 2 (Scarlet Sorcerer and Emerald Enchanter) around somewhere back home. I also have a friend who had one or the other (or maybe both at some time in the distant past). I'd absolutely love to see online editions of them, the more so if they're interactive! The single-player adventure was good fun (first time around -- you needed a bad memory to enjoy it more than once), but the two-player skyship battle was brilliant. Mathematically intricate, what with all the manoeuvres, yet the intricacies were all considered when JD designed the game so the players could just follow easy 'turn to page...' steps. And it even had a ranking system (kinda like Lone Wolf's Kai ranks) so you could keep track of how many battles you'd won or fled. (Lose and you were dead, natch.)
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Post by outspaced on Mar 19, 2005 10:06:08 GMT
I'd absolutely love to see online editions of them, the more so if they're interactive! I would imagine it's theoretically possible to write code for the two-player game, but I wouldn't know where to start. The single-player adventure would be a doddle in comparison; the page layout would be the biggest issue with that, I think. (For example, would you want 300+ full-page b+w illustrations, or should there be two per page landscape? That sort of thing.) I own a scanner and all four books, I just can't being myself to spend so much time scanning the illustrations in, then having to re-touch every single one of them as well as running all the text through OCR. If someone else can scan them, I'll work through the rest of it, but I can't face doing all of it!
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 20, 2005 0:03:01 GMT
We'll see what happens in the near future, friend Outspaced, as I'll have to learn how to use my new scanner!!! (All of Project Aon gasps in aweat least, hopefully! at this announcement.) Yes, true believers, Relenoir is now armed with a flat scanner!
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 20, 2005 1:02:07 GMT
Yes, true believers, Relenoir is now armed... Is it just me or does this make us sound like... a cult? Yes, yes, I know, "shut up and drink your Kool-aid"... Ahem. ;D I don't see that it would be that hard to implement the two-player version of the game. A basic AI might be fun for a one-human version of two player (read: Peregrine will give it a shot, give up, and have the computer move at random). And the message-passing involved would be just about the most basic networking imaginable (which is good because I, err, haven't done networked stuff before). Bring on the first SSoIP* game! * Skyships over Internet Protocol.
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