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Post by kamikaze1900666 on Nov 23, 2010 22:13:35 GMT
Could there be more Epic Failure awards in a book? What about losing the combat against the Sewer Door in book 6 Similar award could be in book 2 (Halvorc), or being stuffed by Chanda in book 6 award  BTW, this sunday I've finally got Lunatic of the Myjaviks award. I stopped counting after the 20th attempt. Three times I managed to defeat Akraa'Neonor bare-handed in 7 turns (with Alether I must admit), just to pick 0 or 1 in the next section against Vonotar's freezing wand... This was much tougher then Kalkoth hunting... I don't want to flood each book with Epic Fails, but one or two more for each sounds feasible. I kind of like the inspiration there for the direct combat fails- that one in Book 2 would be a real pain to try intentionally (stat rigging and forgetting something are what got me to lose it). And the Book 6 combat one is hilarious (if you're into dark humor at all). I'll wait to hear back from Dave to see if it's too much of a problem to code in before I draw them up. Yeah, I became Kalkoth fodder a few times when trying to earn that one myself, along with a round or two over in the final a few times. I think it's best not to keep track of the fails, as it is excruciating to keep reminding yourself how wrong it can go every time. When I was playtesting it before I drew it up, I got the Akraa'Neonor without the Alether, though I "cheated" by using the potion when earning the award after it was programmed in. Glad to hear you overcame that brutal of a challenge- congrats! |
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Post by Dave on Nov 24, 2010 4:39:02 GMT
I'll wait to hear back from Dave to see if it's too much of a problem to code in before I draw them up. Piece of cake now that the code for the other Failure awards is in place. The only real challenge is finding suitable images from the books! (Though, Honza has provided a great one for one of the Failures he suggested!) I just don't think a medal of any sort is appropriate for these "awards"... |
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Post by t0pel on Nov 26, 2010 15:55:21 GMT
*SPOILER*
Hi I have just tried the No equipment award in the 3rd book and after like 15 times a managed to do it and the award didnt pop up :-D I followed the hints - I took only 2 meals when abandoning the sledge and then vial of red laumspur and alether. That should be ok acording to the last hint... So what did I do wrong?
BTW fighting Akraa'Neonor barehanded is a really funny idea :-D:-D
*SOPILER*
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Post by Dave on Nov 26, 2010 16:39:23 GMT
Yes, that should be okay to take the Meals and Laumspur. If you will email me your resumeX.dat file, I will take a look and tell you whether it's a bug or not. (BTW, There are LOTS of sections that, if you visit them, will invalidate the award based on what occurs in the section text! That may have been what happened.)
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Post by t0pel on Nov 26, 2010 17:15:55 GMT
Yes, that should be okay to take the Meals and Laumspur. If you will email me your resumeX.dat file, I will take a look and tell you whether it's a bug or not. (BTW, There are LOTS of sections that, if you visit them, will invalidate the award based on what occurs in the section text! That may have been what happened.) I have sent you the file. |
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Post by Dave on Nov 26, 2010 19:55:45 GMT
I have sent you the file. Got it. It was very helpful. I saw that you fulfilled all of the requirements EXCEPT that you forgot to toss the Map of Kalte before beginning your adventure. When the award says "No Equipment", it really means absolutely none. You cannot be holding a single item when you begin, not even a map. Sorry to make you do it again... But that's the reason you didn't get it. The program does, in fact, register and grant the award perfectly fine(no bugs) as long as the admittedly strict conditions are met - I tested it multiple times. So, just for everyone's reference: When attempting an "unarmed, no equipment" type of award, you must discard EVERYTHING(all weapons, backpack items, and special items) before selecting a choice at the end of that book's section 1 text. ----------- Kamikaze - Currently, having gold in your pouch at the onset of the adventure does not count against the player. Do you want me to add a "gold crowns" check, too, to ensure that they have no money as well? |
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Post by kamikaze1900666 on Nov 26, 2010 22:59:40 GMT
Considering the No Equipment Challenge awards have no use for money in the books they're pertaining to, that doesn't matter either way. Though I typically throw everything, including crowns, into storage for these, I see no reason why having a full money pouch should count against the player. The main idea for the challenge was severely limiting anything that could be of use.
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2010 0:40:32 GMT
Okay. I'll just leave things as they are.
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Post by Ofecks on Nov 28, 2010 3:16:15 GMT
Just attempted a low-combat run of book 6. I only fought 3 (skellies, berserkers, the boss, which I believe is the bare minimum), but I didn't get it. But I did get Villian of Amory. And, to be honest, I killed the [pregnant dog] with a bow/arrow. Don't think that's working as intended, given the hints.
Edit: Okay so apparently you need both Curing (or Divination) and Animal Control to get through book 7 with only one combat. For book 6 I picked Weaponmastery, Huntmastery and Nexus so I'm screwed. All the while the "Difficulty: Easy" on the award is guffawing in my face. You guys are brutal.
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Post by kamikaze1900666 on Nov 28, 2010 8:05:10 GMT
Just attempted a low-combat run of book 6. I only fought 3 (skellies, berserkers, the boss, which I believe is the bare minimum), but I didn't get it. But I did get Villian of Amory. And, to be honest, I killed the [pregnant dog] with a bow/arrow. Don't think that's working as intended, given the hints. Edit: Okay so apparently you need both Curing (or Divination) and Animal Control to get through book 7 with only one combat. For book 6 I picked Weaponmastery, Huntmastery and Nexus so I'm screwed. All the while the "Difficulty: Easy" on the award is guffawing in my face. You guys are brutal. I'll probably be reworking some of the difficulties in the near future. I do think more than a few are lower than they should be now having playtested most of them. Thanks for brining the broken hints to my attention as well. You should've gotten Book 6's low combat award though |
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Post by salivanth on Nov 28, 2010 11:30:40 GMT
I really like the 'no equipment' ones, by the way, just had to say it. You know exactly what you have to do, but it's the execution that's difficult. Whereas in the tempting fate ones, you need to both figure it out, and then get a lot of luck.
I suppose having a bunch of different styles of award can only be a good thing.
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Post by Dave on Nov 29, 2010 5:32:19 GMT
Just attempted a low-combat run of book 6. I only fought 3 (skellies, berserkers, the boss, which I believe is the bare minimum), but I didn't get it. Ofecks, You should've gotten it with 3. Would you mind sending me the resumeX.dat file via email? I will see if something went awry. You might also want to double check your battle history in the action chart for book 6, and see that it really does list only 3 battles for book 6. |
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Post by Ofecks on Nov 30, 2010 23:11:59 GMT
Just checked it, I forgot about those [not a very nice person] Backstabbers in Varetta. There's no way to avoid them, so it appears 4 combats is the bare minimum.
Resume file sent.
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Post by Dave on Dec 1, 2010 1:07:25 GMT
Just checked it, I forgot about those [not a very nice person] Backstabbers in Varetta. There's no way to avoid them, so it appears 4 combats is the bare minimum. Resume file sent. Does the PA forum automatically insert "[not a very nice person]"... That's pretty funny, if so! If not, impressive self-censorship! Anyhow, I'll defer this one to kamikaze to see what he thinks about the minimum numbers. Sometimes, what seems unavoidable is only so because of our tendency to make certain other choices early on... I don't know if that's the case here, but we'll find out! |
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Post by Honza on Dec 1, 2010 10:09:49 GMT
Just checked it, I forgot about those [not a very nice person] Backstabbers in Varetta. There's no way to avoid them, so it appears 4 combats is the bare minimum. Backstabbers in Varetta are avoidable. You just have to meet the right person  |
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