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Post by Dave on Jan 1, 2012 4:23:21 GMT
I couldn't find anywhere in the books where it states that you wouldn't be able to hurt the Darklord if you only have a "regular" weapon, but I do now seem to recall something about the Sommerswerd being one of the few weapons that can actually destroy a Darklord, which implies that regular weapons really won't do the trick... So, if you use the Sommerswerd, but don't have another Darklord-capable-killing weapon, those ought to be three rounds of "ouch" for Lone Wolf, oughtn't they?
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Post by Honza on Jan 1, 2012 12:44:56 GMT
In book 2, sections 79 and 242, about Sommerswerd:
...It is the only weapon in all of Magnamund that can kill a Darklord, ... And there is sections 340 in book 12:
You spring forward and strike a blow that would have decapitated a mortal creature. But the moment your weapon hits Taktaal’s flesh, it disintegrates in a flash of sparks...
Another thing is that Kraagenskul is already grievously wounded in section 75, but this is represented by his lowered CS.
Other situations, where you're killed by darklords: (book 12 section 3 and 90, book 5 section 390)
There isn't explicitly stated that you cannot damage them, because they kill you before you could hit them.
IMHO only Sommerswerd, Dagger of Vashna, Helshezag and Zejar-dulaga arrow are Darklord-capable-killing weapons.
So, I think unless you possess and equip Dagger of Vashna, you will have to survive 3 rounds of combat unable to hurt Kraagenskul.
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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 1, 2012 18:19:26 GMT
Played Hardcore and on book 4 I killed the Elix and then in book 5 at section 57 I didn't get the extra 2 CS? version 1.12.2
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Post by Ofecks on Jan 1, 2012 23:41:39 GMT
Finally finished a Magnakai By-The-Book run. Book 11 took a dozen attempts or so, and I won with 3 EP left.
So now I'm doing a hardcore run to unlock the rest of the achiev hints. Something I've noticed that isn't documented in the program is that if you do Weaponmastery on hardcore mode, you only get to pick 3 weapons and THAT'S IT. No additionals upon book completion. Is this the way it's supposed to be? If so, please add it to the hardcore docs.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2012 3:01:42 GMT
Honza - I agree - I'll work that into a bug-fix release. Played Hardcore and on book 4 I killed the Elix and then in book 5 at section 57 I didn't get the extra 2 CS? John Bryntze - Just tested it out, and it works as it should. If you are still playing with that particular campaign, would you please double check in your Journal/history page that you really did visit section 308 in book 4? You may have killed the Elix in an attempted run-through, but not made it all the way to the end, restarted, and taken a different route (bypassing the Elix), and made it to the end that time... @ofecks - Indeed, the Hardcore rules give no increase in number of weapons beyond three. I will document this somewhere... Any suggestion as to where? A tooltip in the Game options pages? --------- EDIT: in playing through on a hardcore attempt: I realized that I have got a couple of the Magnakai series item collection awards bugged - you can earn the awards before you actually complete the series! This will be fixed in the next release.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2012 3:23:15 GMT
John Bryntze - Just tested it out, and it works as it should. If you are still playing with that particular campaign, would you please double check in your Journal/history page that you really did visit section 308 in book 4? You may have killed the Elix in an attempted run-through, but not made it all the way to the end, restarted, and taken a different route (bypassing the Elix), and made it to the end that time... Okay, I just realized that you are showing me the tooltip over your CS score as a way to show that you didn't get the bonus. That simply shows your CS score based on possible discipline and item bonuses, generally IRRESPECTIVE of the section text for the section you are currently on. If you actually follow the sequence of bonuses that get added in at the beginning of the first round of combat, you'll see everything that gets added to that particular combat. It would be fairly complex for me to try and have the Action chart value always reflect the current section - not impossible, just complex. When I do a major version overhaul (Seventh Sense 2.0!) I'll see about including that detail. Until then, though, you'll just have to follow along with the bonuses as they appear to ensure that you've gotten them. Edit: In fact, if you go back an check out your combat history, that Elix battle in book 5 will probably show a CS of 22 for Lone Wolf, since you will have the +2 bonus added in there.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2012 4:38:02 GMT
Finally finished a Magnakai By-The-Book run. Book 11 took a dozen attempts or so, and I won with 3 EP left. So now I'm doing a hardcore run to unlock the rest of the achiev hints. Something I've noticed that isn't documented in the program is that if you do Weaponmastery on hardcore mode, you only get to pick 3 weapons and THAT'S IT. No additionals upon book completion. Is this the way it's supposed to be? If so, please add it to the hardcore docs. Okay, this has been addressed in both the tooltips in the Gameplay rules selection stuff, and the Gameplay styles page in the Table of Contents. You are told about the limit of 3 weapon proficiencies in Hardcore.
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2012 5:03:10 GMT
The above fixes have been incorporated, and released in the bug-fix release 1.12.3
Please ensure you are running 1.12.3 before reporting a bug, to make sure it's really still there! Thanks!
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Post by Dave on Jan 2, 2012 5:31:57 GMT
Finally finished a Magnakai By-The-Book run. You should submit this - you'd be the first one on the Hall of Fame with a Magnakai run! EDIT: I should be arrested for quintuple posting, but it's my thread, so I've got a "get out of jail free" card.
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Post by Ofecks on Jan 2, 2012 7:53:26 GMT
I'm not sure if I can, as I've currently got SS installed on my laptop and the campaign data was copied from my backup HD. I did the run entirely on my laptop, if that makes any difference.
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Post by John Bryntze on Jan 2, 2012 10:08:22 GMT
John Bryntze - Just tested it out, and it works as it should. If you are still playing with that particular campaign, would you please double check in your Journal/history page that you really did visit section 308 in book 4? You may have killed the Elix in an attempted run-through, but not made it all the way to the end, restarted, and taken a different route (bypassing the Elix), and made it to the end that time... Okay, I just realized that you are showing me the tooltip over your CS score as a way to show that you didn't get the bonus. That simply shows your CS score based on possible discipline and item bonuses, generally IRRESPECTIVE of the section text for the section you are currently on. If you actually follow the sequence of bonuses that get added in at the beginning of the first round of combat, you'll see everything that gets added to that particular combat. It would be fairly complex for me to try and have the Action chart value always reflect the current section - not impossible, just complex. When I do a major version overhaul (Seventh Sense 2.0!) I'll see about including that detail. Until then, though, you'll just have to follow along with the bonuses as they appear to ensure that you've gotten them. Edit: In fact, if you go back an check out your combat history, that Elix battle in book 5 will probably show a CS of 22 for Lone Wolf, since you will have the +2 bonus added in there. yes sorry you are right, I had CS22 in the combat history! I missed it pop-up during battle! I noticed in version 1.12.1 (might be added now) that all the items we get in book 12 in the beginning like the extra for sommerswerd and a amulet doesn't got a mini image when holding the mouse over... small thing but there are images in the book itself sorry again for taking your time about a none-problem of Elix.
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Post by archangel on Jan 3, 2012 20:52:13 GMT
Thanks for making such a great playing aid! I've hugely enjoyed replaying all the books with it and am keenly looking forward to more of them.
My first minor problem was that I had to remove the line #include <curl/types.h> from file_sys.h since recent versions of curl don't seem to support it. It looks like that include should be redundant now? (I'm compiling from source since I'm running it under Linux; all seemed to work fine after that)
More seriously, I've played through up to the end of book 7. When I tried to start book 8 I get the "Story So Far" page but without any clickable buttons to move to the next page. I've spent some time fiddling around with the data/books directories but I think all I've really managed to do is make things worse. Do you have any idea what I should be doing to try to figure out what's gone wrong? I have had earlier versions of SS before which I think would have only been playable up to book 7 or so, so not sure if that might have something to do with it?
Thanks in advance!
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Post by jdubs1211 on Jan 3, 2012 23:50:08 GMT
I just played through Book 9
1.) I was able to use the Dagger of Vashna even though I did not have it with me(had it in storage)
2.) Twice I was not able to reclaim my captured weapons and special item weapons(when they were ordered returned to me and at the end of the book) I had to discard a weapon when prompted and when I went to do that I was unable to reclaim anything--and the end of the book I tried to reclaim them again and it would not allow me and the game crashed
Book 12
I am fighting Kraaganskul and I just threw the Sommerswerd at him. Now it won't let me fight him(yellow note telling me I need a weapon that can damage a darklord) so essentially the game is frozen now-I understand that I won't inflict any damage for 3 rounds but it seems to be in error that I can't fight him
Thank you for all the work you do Dave!!!! I am close to finishing up a combo Kai/Magnakai no death/restart by-the-book run if this get fixed
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Post by Dave on Jan 6, 2012 3:35:44 GMT
jdubs - Can you give me a section number in book 12 that you are on that this yellow message is appearing on? I'm puzzled by the report, but we'll get it fixed for sure!
(Oh, and for using the Dagger in book 9 - you must have had the "other" dagger - you can use a special dagger from book 9, in place of the Dagger of Vashna, in prodigy mode. spoiler : Maghana's Dagger)
The reclaim items thing is potentially related to the section where you are robbed - you can get that item back if you go to a certain section of the book, so it's not possible to get it back at the end of the book. I don't know what would cause the crash, but I've had a couple of a random crashes myself when trying to switch action chart pages, so it might be related to that... I hate intermittent crashes like that, hard to track down...
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Post by Dave on Jan 6, 2012 3:40:05 GMT
Thanks for making such a great playing aid! I've hugely enjoyed replaying all the books with it and am keenly looking forward to more of them. My first minor problem was that I had to remove the line #include <curl/types.h> from file_sys.h since recent versions of curl don't seem to support it. It looks like that include should be redundant now? (I'm compiling from source since I'm running it under Linux; all seemed to work fine after that) More seriously, I've played through up to the end of book 7. When I tried to start book 8 I get the "Story So Far" page but without any clickable buttons to move to the next page. I've spent some time fiddling around with the data/books directories but I think all I've really managed to do is make things worse. Do you have any idea what I should be doing to try to figure out what's gone wrong? I have had earlier versions of SS before which I think would have only been playable up to book 7 or so, so not sure if that might have something to do with it? Thanks in advance! I'll try it out in windows without that include and I'll see what happens... Sounds like your installation is confused about where to look for the book info... or it's missing... Try locating the data files for each book; they follow the naming scheme Xdata.7z (where X is the book number). you should have 1 each for books 1-12 in the appropriate folder inside "data/books/bookX" in your installation directory. See if they are all present. If not, that's the problem.
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