Kai Chronicles

[Ofecks]

I saw some Fighting Fantasy ones on the Android store. I've never read those but the apps look neat.

[tonib]

Sept 2, 2018 20:21:10 GMT daviddavidson said:

Aug 17, 2018 19:08:24 GMT tonib said:

Hi, we are still working on Kai Chronicles. The plan is to support books 11 and 12 this month or in September (2018). There are no plans to support more books.
Cheers!

Thanks for the response, that's excellent news that the Magnakai series of books will be finished soon.
You said you have no plans to work on any more books (which I take to mean the grand master series & other Joe Dever books); is there a specific reason for this or do you just feel like you wish to end the development cycle (I've never read the books as on paper or as e-books, shame on me; I know) so I don't know if the grand master series will differ greatly from the Kai and Magnakai series) and simply want to finish things up now or are you potentially going on to develop other (non Kai book related) projects?
I'd love to see some good gamebooks on the android store as one time purchases, I tried one or two free ones but they all had some sort of money milking premium currency so if you're wrapping up the Kai Chronicles project with these last two books and decide to go into making gamebooks of your own, I would love of they were one time purchase deals rather than the freemium ones.
Unless of course you need to work on other stuff (which I won't go poking my nose into), in which case; best wishes.

Really looking forward to books 11 and 12 and you've done a great job so far at bringing classic gamebooks to a new audience with an excellent app.

Cheers
-David

Hi David, thank you for your interest. Before this, I just read the first 4 books when I was a teenager. I started this project to learn some technical stuff ("Javascript"), have some fun, and to play the books with Spanish text.

I'm going to stop because it's a good point where to stop (end of Magnakai serie), I'm a tired, and the technical stuff learning is REALLY done. 

Not agree with "money milking premium currency". Any kind of software product is hard to create, and, as far I know, other Lone Wolf Android apps comply with the PAON license. Any money they did with their apps, it's a fair money (I suspect not enough). I thought about donations, but It not worth it (work cost value < extremely generous donations value, taxman  (I love the image of a taxman as a ninja), it's open source, Joe Dever released his work for free, and other people did work on this project for free)

Going to upload books 11 and 12 next weeks

My new projects are to not related to game books (paint my house, help wanted!)

Cheers!

[daviddavidson]

Thanks for the reply Tonib and I really appreciate all the hard work you've put into making the Kai books into a great app accessible to people of all ages and in two different languages.
When I refer to "money milking premium currency" I'm not referring to any of the Project Aon book readers or any of Dever's work, I'm referring to the supposedly free choose your own adventure gamebook apps in the android store where (at certain points) you will often be confronted by a boss who is completely unbeatable and to advance the story you will need to either purchase items that are not available through normal gameplay (such as a "super healing and strength potion" or a "single use scroll of killing") with real life money thus locking parts of their books behind a pay wall.

However if someone creates their own gamebook (or obtains a licence to distribute a gamebook as part of an Android app) and wishes to charge money for the time and the hard work put into making that gamebook into a game I completely agree (for example you pay once for the book on the Google app store and you never need to pay again, just like buying a real book) that they should, unless they wish to give it away for free, like Joe Dever did and people like you make it possoble.

As for donations and the tax man, you could always include a bitcoin wallet address, bitcoin isn't taxed (yet), though even with bitcoin machines and online bitcoin vendors it's still difficult to change £/€/$ into bitcoin and people may simply not want to get into the world of bitcoin transfers to donate sadly.

Once again, thanks and if i lived near to you (which I don't think that I do I live in the UK) I would happily help paint your house. As I can't help the best I can do is wish you good luck with your redecorating and hope that you enjoy a freshly painted house (and a few beers when you've finished) at least slightly as much as I've enjoyed your android adaption of the Lone Wolf series.

Best wishes
-David

[Gabriel-BR]

Thank you guys for the awesome work!

[Sheard Goodwin]

I just discovered this App. Amazing work and I'm sad you won't be making any past book 12. Having said that, I totally understand the reasons.

Great work and thank you for making the train ride into work a pleasant experience. Awesome work!

[Pryter]

Hi everyone.
I downloaded the Android app for Kai Chronicles but I can't edit my action chart to be able to play the game. Is there something I can do to troubleshoot?

[evilizard]

Hello Toni,

I am working on a similar desktop app coded in python as a programmer's learning project, using tkinter.

I have spent lots of hours on it, it's really more a personal project that may never be published than anything else... but it obsesses me to the point where I am not reading the books anymore but just coding and trying to improve my program, I don't work on other projects that I have thought about because of this one.

At first I was using a browser to read the books, and just my program as an action chart manager, then I decided to code a book reader, which I got working in a breeze, It's not a browser but still does some parsing of the .htm files that compose each book, transforming the links into buttons in my app, the program can identify when there is a battle in a chapter, and auto-heal came out of that... all that without modifying the books.

Now I am at a point where I use your app and find it is so much better in many areas and have a few questions regarding how you got it working.

1- it takes time before you implement each book, is it because you are coding in a way where you read every section, coding along the way all the damage that lonewolf takes, all the healing he can gain in every section, and all the items lost or found from each section individually?
Or even better; the conditional chapters depending on the roll of a dice or on wether a discipline has been learned or not... I believe you had to have some manual work in every of these sections, is it not?

2- if not: what's your secret recipe? I find easy to have a portion of my program do that work lazily for me ; scrape the source, grab the links to create my buttons, except for my 'badlinks' list... however EP management beyong auto healing every non fighting chapter, disciplines, dice roll and item management is hard. just for the preface pages I had to code a specific validation process... doing the same in the whole book seems a lot of work, so far I ask the reader (me) just to read the chapters and manually do those changes.

[JoRedWulf]

Nov 21, 2018 21:25:45 GMT Pryter said:

Hi everyone.
I downloaded the Android app for Kai Chronicles but I can't edit my action chart to be able to play the game. Is there something I can do to troubleshoot?

Exact same problem - cannot enter values in the Action Chart fields to start the game, no keyboard appears!

downloaded app from Google Play, running on Samsung galaxy s6 - Android

[JoRedWulf]

Jan 4, 2019 22:39:15 GMT JoRedWulf said:

Nov 21, 2018 21:25:45 GMT Pryter said:

Hi everyone.
I downloaded the Android app for Kai Chronicles but I can't edit my action chart to be able to play the game. Is there something I can do to troubleshoot?

Exact same problem - cannot enter values in the Action Chart fields to start the game, no keyboard appears!

downloaded app from Google Play, running on Samsung galaxy s6 - Android

Update I selected Computer Generated instead of Manual, then saved and Action Chart autofilled

[alberto]

hello,
first of all thank you for this wonderful project.
is it possible to continue to play a story on different devices? I use to run it on a chrome broswer on an iOS device... can I continue it on a PC and vice versa?
thank you again

[cracrayol]

Hello tonib and thanks for this project how allows me to play Lone Wolf everywhere without having to take the books with me in order to play it.

I've seen that the book 12 is the last book you will support in your app.

So I've forked your source code and begun to integrate the Grand Master serie of LW. For the moment, I've only made some small adaptations/additions in order to be able to add book 13.

My fork is available here : github.com/cracrayol/kaichronicles

[Raahzel]

I have a suggestion, it would be nice if the game could have ambient background sounds that fits the scene youre in with the option to turn it on or off.

There are a lot of free ambient sounds like forests, dungeons, taverns, thunder, rain etc etc.

[tonib]

Nov 21, 2018 21:25:45 GMT Pryter said:

Hi everyone.
I downloaded the Android app for Kai Chronicles but I can't edit my action chart to be able to play the game. Is there something I can do to troubleshoot?

Hi. You should not need to write anything on the Action Chart, except in the "Annotations" field . The application tries to handle all the accounting. At the "The Game Rules" section there are links to choose the "Combat Skill" and "Endurance Points". After that, you can continue with the game

[tonib]

Dec 13, 2018 10:34:43 GMT evilizard said:

Hello Toni,

I am working on a similar desktop app coded in python as a programmer's learning project, using tkinter.

I have spent lots of hours on it, it's really more a personal project that may never be published than anything else... but it obsesses me to the point where I am not reading the books anymore but just coding and trying to improve my program, I don't work on other projects that I have thought about because of this one.

At first I was using a browser to read the books, and just my program as an action chart manager, then I decided to code a book reader, which I got working in a breeze, It's not a browser but still does some parsing of the .htm files that compose each book, transforming the links into buttons in my app, the program can identify when there is a battle in a chapter, and auto-heal came out of that... all that without modifying the books.

Now I am at a point where I use your app and find it is so much better in many areas and have a few questions regarding how you got it working.

1- it takes time before you implement each book, is it because you are coding in a way where you read every section, coding along the way all the damage that lonewolf takes, all the healing he can gain in every section, and all the items lost or found from each section individually?
Or even better; the conditional chapters depending on the roll of a dice or on wether a discipline has been learned or not... I believe you had to have some manual work in every of these sections, is it not?

2- if not: what's your secret recipe? I find easy to have a portion of my program do that work lazily for me ; scrape the source, grab the links to create my buttons, except for my 'badlinks' list... however EP management beyong auto healing every non fighting chapter, disciplines, dice roll and item management is hard. just for the preface pages I had to code a specific validation process... doing the same in the whole book seems a lot of work, so far I ask the reader (me) just to read the chapters and manually do those changes.

Hello evilizard, it's 1, we created some kind of "script" for the game mechanics, because it's usually repeated: "If you have discipline X go to sectión Y". We use this script for each book section where something happens to the LW Action Chart. You can look at it at github.com/tonib/kaichronicles/blob/master/src/www/data/ . Feel free to use it if it can help you, and good luck with your project.

[tonib]

Mar 1, 2019 15:28:21 GMT alberto said:

hello,
first of all thank you for this wonderful project.
is it possible to continue to play a story on different devices? I use to run it on a chrome broswer on an iOS device... can I continue it on a PC and vice versa?
thank you again

Hello, I don't know... The save game function on a browser saves a "json" file. If you can upload that file to your PC you should able to play it. As I don't have a iOS device, I cannot help you with how to do that upload. Maybe you can send it to yourself by mail or with Dropbox or Google Drive. From PC to iOS should be equivalent.