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Post by jmisno1 on Mar 19, 2021 11:44:54 GMT
I have a question about something that in my opinion is guaranteed to happen in Book 32 and the question contains spoilers for Books 10, 30 and 31. What do you think?
In Book 10 you have the chance to get something that I think is called The Ironheart Broadsword, this can kill The Chaos Master who is said to be A God, which means that it must have been made by A God
At paragraph 15 in Book 30 you meet Serocca and Sinay and Serocca tells you that if you need their help in The Battle to come that Lone Wolf must open The Shadow Gate of Sabdai and The Beholder and his brave Yoacor will be waiting
Towards the very end of Book 31 you speak with Lone Wolf who reveals that Vashna is now immune to The Sommersweeds power to instant kill A Darklord
Given the situation I think that it's a matter of when not if Lone Wolf will open The Shadow Gate of Sandai and The Beholder and his brave Yoacor will appear to help that they are guaranteed to bring The Ironheart Broadsword and the reason I think they are guaranteed to is because it can slay The Chaos Master, who is A God, which means it will be able to slay A Darklord
1 thing that I will mention is that it is only my opinion that this is guaranteed to happen in Book 32, which means that it may not happen in Book 32 |
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 19, 2021 15:40:37 GMT
Towards the very end of Book 31 you speak with Lone Wolf who reveals that Vashna is now immune to The Sommersweeds power to instant kill A Darklord Even if Vashna is immune to the "insta-kill", it doesn't mean he cannot be harmed with the SS with a direct hit. I guess that if we are to fight Vashna in book 32, we'll be able to hurt him. In Newsletter 6, his combat stats are revealed: SKILL 58 / ENDURANCE 88. |
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Post by jmisno1 on Mar 19, 2021 16:36:47 GMT
Towards the very end of Book 31 you speak with Lone Wolf who reveals that Vashna is now immune to The Sommersweeds power to instant kill A Darklord Even if Vashna is immune to the "insta-kill", it doesn't mean he cannot be harmed with the SS with a direct hit. I guess that if we are to fight Vashna in book 32, we'll be able to hurt him. In Newsletter 6, his combat stats are revealed: SKILL 58 / ENDURANCE 88. Are you sure that those stats are accurate?, the reason that I doubt that they are is because Gnaag is supposed to be a lot weaker then Vashna and if you fight Gnaag in Book 12 his stats are COMBAT SKILL 50 and ENDURANCE 70, which definitely isn't a lot weaker
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Post by kolinovic on Mar 20, 2021 20:56:57 GMT
Couple of thoughts on this - firstly, it's not just Vashna who's knocking about for Book 32 - it's essentially the Nengud Kor Adez with his head on it. You could zap him until kingdom come but unless you've zapped the whole entity of the lake of fire you can't kill him, I think. At least, that would tie in with how he exists at all and how he's virtually invulnerable.
Second, Gnaag's stats came from when he was in Helgedad, while Vashna's came from the Maakengorge. Put either in the other's place and you'd see a much bigger gap in terms of strength.
Interesting point about the Ironheart Broadsword, would be useful if it fitted in somewhere, though I'd say the links between the Daziarn and Magnamund were played out in Book 30...
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Post by sunsnake on Mar 22, 2021 11:20:05 GMT
I got to agree, this Vashna isn't the run of the mill usual Vashna. Or even Vashna in the heart of Darklord power - Helgedad.
For all intents and purposes this is a different Vashna to the point I think calling him Vashna is a bit misleading.
The point isn't you can't instant kill him, but rather he keeps coming back if you do kill him. What can a sword even the most magical sword in legend do against the sea kinda of thing.
I would guess the trick is to somehow pull the lake of blood entity from Vashna before killing him...
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 22, 2021 14:43:41 GMT
Are you sure that those stats are accurate?, the reason that I doubt that they are is because Gnaag is supposed to be a lot weaker then Vashna and if you fight Gnaag in Book 12 his stats are COMBAT SKILL 50 and ENDURANCE 70, which definitely isn't a lot weaker It was Joe Dever who made the Newsletters so yeah, he must be sure of what he was writing... Of course, newsletter #6 was made at the time of the Kai/Magnakai series, where a Kai Lord had basic CS and EP scores of 10+X and 20+X to start with. If we are to fight Vashna in book 32, his stats would probably need to be updated (a NO GM has basic CS and EP scores of 25+x and 30+x, which are much higher than what a player had back when Newsletter #6 was published). |
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Post by GhostofLandar on Mar 24, 2021 3:41:17 GMT
Given the situation I think that it's a matter of when not if Lone Wolf will open The Shadow Gate of Sandai and The Beholder and his brave Yoacor will appear to help that they are guaranteed to bring The Ironheart Broadsword and the reason I think they are guaranteed to is because it can slay The Chaos Master, who is A God, which means it will be able to slay A Darklord
1 thing that I will mention is that it is only my opinion that this is guaranteed to happen in Book 32, which means that it may not happen in Book 32 I sort of want to take credit for Sinay and Serocca appearing because I wrote to Joe and asked that they (and others like them) return as it only made sense that if LW was key to ALL planes of existence fight against Evil and Chaos, that he'd get some help finally. That aside, the Ironheart sword is a magical sword that is probably infused with something of the Daziarn itself and thus capable of killing the Chaos-master (or at least forcing him to be reborn.) The Sommerswerd was forged on the Plane of Light and while made by the Nuoma was infused by Kai himself. No weapon in Aon (or the other planes) is as powerful (at least when it's not holed up underground.) |
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