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Post by Relenoir on Apr 15, 2004 19:32:47 GMT
Unfortunately, this poll can only truly be answered by those who are lucky enough to own these books, or at least have read them. I cannot count myself as one of them, as I only own one and used to own another. Some day, perhaps... My vote for The Voyage of the Moonstone doesn't count, either I hit it accidentally or it defaulted to the first choice when I didn't enter a vote.
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Post by outspaced on Apr 15, 2004 22:01:55 GMT
I'm fortunate enough to own all 8 of the New Order books, though I haven't read them anything like as much as the earlier Lone Wolf books. When I started thinking about this poll, I remembered the ones set in Southern Magnamund more vividly: Buccanneers of Shadaki, Mydnight's Hero, Vampirium and Hunger of Sejanoz.
Since Sejanoz was the last one (and only 300 sections) I wasn't going to vote for that! Shadaki is very good, but too similar to the preceding Voyage of the Moonstone to be the best, so it was a toss-up between Mydnight and Vampirium. I opted for Mydnight's Hero because of the cool race against time, particularly the breathless showdown at the finale. I also think the background political intrigue is a nice touch.
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Post by Drear on Apr 28, 2004 18:41:41 GMT
I once had a chance to buy Voyage of the Moonstone... but I didn't take it. Sort of been kicking myself about it every now and then since.
Anyway: What are the rules in the new order series? Who are you, what level of mastery do you have, what disciplines are available? Is there anything else that's markedly different?
Oh, and do those books visit Telchos? If so, which book? Can you tell me anything about it?
Thanks in advance =)
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Apr 28, 2004 20:05:30 GMT
Well, they were never published in the USA, so I can't vote. Frankly, seeing the way the Grand Master series was edited, I'm not sure that was such a bad thing.
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Post by Sarra on Apr 28, 2004 20:41:59 GMT
I've never even had the honor of looking upon one of the New Order books.
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jimy
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Post by jimy on Apr 29, 2004 5:33:56 GMT
as far as i remember, the rules are more or less the same, you can choose a unique new kai lord name (random number table and a list) theres a few new disciplines, and, you get your own personalized 'super' weapon. not quite a sommerswerd, but still useful
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Post by Drear on Apr 29, 2004 5:49:26 GMT
Still, I'd like specifics. Thanks for the info so far, though.
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Post by Relenoir on Apr 29, 2004 6:48:08 GMT
The rules are basically the same, but now you're a Kai Grand Master of the Order instead of Lone Wolf. It uses the same Disciplines as the Grand Master series with a few additions: Bardsmanship- you have supernatural abilities with music and performing, Astrology- you can use stars, sun, and moon to make mystical predictions, Herbmastery- you can identify any organic substances and make good use of them, kind of like the Healing Disciplines used to allow you to do, and Elementalism- you can manipulate, create, destroy, increase and decrease the four basic elements of air, water, fire, and earth. You are now only allowed to heal 10 EP of damage per book by using Curing (even if you have Deliverance), and you pick a special Kai Weapon forged by Lone Wolf with special properties, like bonuses underwater, or in the dark, or underground, or against undead. . . it varies weapon to weapon.
Don't know about that one. Outspaced: a little help here? I used to own book 28, but now the only one I have is #26, which is neat because you get to adventure in the Dwarven Kingdom of Bor.
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Post by outspaced on Apr 29, 2004 9:23:58 GMT
Wow, this is what I find when I get up in a morning! OK, as Relenoir says, the New Order Grand Masters now have to master 16 Disciplines rather than 12. I imagine it is assumed that Lone Wolf split and clarified some of the original Disciplines for consistency. Starting CS is 25+(D10-1). Starting EP is 30+(D10-1). The Kai Weapons are all +5CS, but have bonuses in certain situations. For example, the least useful would be the Sword Ulnarias which adds +9 if the Grand Master is fighting underwater. Of the ten Kai Weapons you can choose from, the higher bonuses are the ones least likely to be useful. The Sword Sunstrike for example gives only +6, but that extra +1 is any time it is wielded in sunlight. You are given the option of picking one or randomly chosing which weapon Lone Wolf gave you. The addition of four extra Disciplines means you have 4 new ranks, though the rules seem to indicate that you become a Kai Supreme Master after mastering 15 of the 16 Disciplines. Not sure what to make of that. Settings: 21: Voyage of the Moonstone - The Eastern coast of Northern Magnamund from Holmgard to Elzian. 22: The Buccaneers of Shadaki - The Eastern coast of Southern Magnamund from Elzian to Port of Suhn (encompassing the Isle of Lorn). 23: Mydnight's Hero - Isle of Sheasu (western coast of Southern Magnamund) to Seroa, capital of Siyen (south coast of Tentarias, central Southern Magnamund. 24: Rune War - The Stornlands 25: Trail of the Wolf - Helkona / Gazad Helkona 26: The Fall of Blood Mountain - Boradon / Bor Mines 27: Vampirium - Country of Bhanar (Southern Magnamund) 28: The Hunger of Sejanoz - Southern Magnamund country of Chai; capital Pensei to city of Tazhan. Note: Book 28 did not come with the correct map, but a reprinted map from Book 27. Book 24 was the last to come with a colour map, though the maps for books 25 and 26 were obviously drawn in colour but reduced to greyscale for the books. Brian Williams, the generous chap that he is, actually sent Project Aon copies of his work for Lone Wolf--and that includes the colour maps and the missing map. Some time ago Jon Blake, being the excellent project co-ordinator that he is, scanned in a couple of these for everyone's benefit. Unfortunately, I've lost the e-mail that links to them on the Project Aon site so I've copied the files to a holding website and I'll link to them. homepage.ntlworld.com/ravensblade/dever/LW23.jpghomepage.ntlworld.com/ravensblade/dever/LW26.jpghomepage.ntlworld.com/ravensblade/dever/LW28.jpgWe don't have a scan of the colour map from LW25 yet, but I hope the three above keep you all interested in the project! Ah! Forgot to mention: the maps are obviously (c) Joe Dever and Brian Williams, so it would be courteous to remember this and use the files accordingly as per the Project Aon User License. Please do not redistribute them since Project Aon has the sole rights to publish the Lone Wolf series in English, even though it does not yet have the rights to publish the New Order series. Thanks for your cooperation. Edit to remove yet more typos.
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Post by Wild Horse on May 2, 2004 12:14:09 GMT
No, no mention or journey to Telchos in the 8 New Order series books
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Post by Drear on May 8, 2004 21:11:23 GMT
Okay... Due to a project I am working on, I would need some more information. I have seen the map in #23 (thanks for posting that, wonderful initiative!), but I need to know more about the path taken in that book. Is there anything said about Bakhasa, or the doomlands of Naaros? What is the mountain range around Telchos called? Any information is welcome, really.
In the interest of not saying too much on an open forum, it's preferable if you email me, at f93hezo@cd.chalmers.se.
Thanks in advance!
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Post by outspaced on May 9, 2004 9:21:14 GMT
In the interest of not saying too much on an open forum, it's preferable if you email me OK, I have just sent you an e-mail with the information you requested. It's a bit patchy, but I'm sure it's better than nothing. Have a good one!
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Post by Drear on May 9, 2004 11:28:37 GMT
That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks several bunches! I'll get back to you on what I have planned. To me, at least, it's a pretty promising project. But it's see-krut! =)
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Post by Relenoir on May 9, 2004 20:16:29 GMT
Great, now you've got me all kinds of curious about the whole clandestine project. I can't help but wonder if it's another project similar to Ronan's gamebook (which I still haven't had time to read. . . ). I suppose that time will tell--I hope! By the way, does anyone else find it amusing that this thread has as many posts as it does, but only three people have voted (myself included, but it forced me to so I don't count) on these books?
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Post by The Wytch-King on May 9, 2004 20:51:00 GMT
Great, now you've got me all kinds of curious about the whole clandestine project. *looking at your avatar* Careful with that curiosity ... But I'm curious, too. (And still playing through The Dark before the Dawn as well ...) By the way, does anyone else find it amusing that this thread has as many posts as it does, but only three people have voted (myself included, but it forced me to so I don't count) on these books? Yeah, amusing in a teeth-gnashing way ... Agarash, but I want these books! (And those missing Grand Master books ...) I'd even promise to vote! The Wytch-King
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