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Post by StarLight on Oct 10, 2004 3:14:05 GMT
I myself have managed to get through the entire Kai/Magnikai series and get up to the Deathlord of Ixia. The Demon Lord Tagazin was my undoing, (I guess I was just unlucky.)
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Post by Thomas Wolmer on Oct 12, 2004 14:15:55 GMT
Hey, how 'bout them Lone Wolf books? When's 16 coming out? Work is ongoing. Not at an awfully high pace though. A few preliminary versions have been generated and there's the usual huge list of issues raised by the editors. We'll also try to get things rolling for 04WotW. It has also got its first preliminary version generated, but it's a long way to go there...
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Post by Zipp on Oct 13, 2004 7:47:38 GMT
I used to cheat all the time. I was there for story, not gameplay. Although that was fun too. This return to LW I've been doing now, um, starting yesterday, has seen me set some rules in place for myself.
1. Rolled five numbers and choose the highest for my CS and ED (still only gave me 15 CS and 28 ED)
2. If I die, I only go back to the begining if there was some random number influences along the way (ie. battle, random events). This is because the chances of me choosing the exact same path is, um, 99.9% if no randomness was involved.
3. Save points occur every time I take a rest by choice. This means a night's sleep, and not because i was knocked unconcious. Do we save in FF when knocked out? No. But we all know Inns are magical saving points... and tents. What is a tent without a save point? REI had better start stocking those.
4. Every book saves
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Post by 25 am on Oct 13, 2004 8:24:34 GMT
I do not like the word "cheating". I would rather call it ... a vision. Doesn't Lone Wolf posess the ability of Sixth Sense? So what happens if he dies? Is he really dead? No, wait a second! He still is alive, just one or two sections ago. Thankfully, it was just a vision of what awaits him down this horrible path. Now he can take the save route.
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Post by Grayzie on Oct 13, 2004 10:50:49 GMT
I used to cheat all the time. I was there for story, not gameplay. Although that was fun too. This return to LW I've been doing now, um, starting yesterday, has seen me set some rules in place for myself. 1. Rolled five numbers and choose the highest for my CS and ED (still only gave me 15 CS and 28 ED) 2. If I die, I only go back to the begining if there was some random number influences along the way (ie. battle, random events). This is because the chances of me choosing the exact same path is, um, 99.9% if no randomness was involved. 3. Save points occur every time I take a rest by choice. This means a night's sleep, and not because i was knocked unconcious. Do we save in FF when knocked out? No. But we all know Inns are magical saving points... and tents. What is a tent without a save point? REI had better start stocking those. 4. Every book saves Wow, reading this post was rather enlightening. It made me think about all of the rule-bending we LW fans do. This isn't an attack at you Zipp, just a revelation as to how much I take liberties. Here's my book 1 confession: *I roll at most 5 times for both CS and EP. You are crazy if you think I'm going to try to complete 20 books with 11 CS 15 EP. * I know how important the Sommerswerd will become so I allow for 3 to 5 weapon mastery rolls in the hope of getting the sword. Et cetera.
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columbob
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Post by columbob on Oct 13, 2004 13:21:02 GMT
* I know how important the Sommerswerd will become so I allow for 3 to 5 weapon mastery rolls in the hope of getting the sword. Ultimately, that's not too important, because as soon as book 6, you can get Weaponmastery which replaces the Weaponskill bonus.
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Post by Ofecks on Oct 13, 2004 13:23:44 GMT
I know how important the Sommerswerd will become so I allow for 3 to 5 weapon mastery rolls in the hope of getting the sword. Why even bother, though? The Sommerswerd grants a +8 bonus by itself. That's freakin' huge. No other weapon in the entire series does (except for one-battle-only stuff like Deathstaff, Ironheart Broadsword, Dagger of Vashna, etc.). The +8 bonus makes you extremely powerful and the only fight in the Kai series which would even come close to matching your strength is Mr. Haakon in book 5. Even then, you'll have collected enough CS-boosting items to make it easier. Just skip Weaponskill altogether. Who cares about a +2 bonus in the Kai series, when you can't even control which weapon you get the bonus with? Weaponmastery and Grand Weaponmastery are far, FAR more useful in that regard. EDIT: D'oh! Beaten to the punch by two minutes. Speaking of cheating, I unknowingly did a few times during my current run, which means I'll have to do it all over again! See, I'm playing with the dual-weapons rule, and in certain battles where only you can use only certain weapons (like the Helghast in book 8, Chaos-Master, Darklord Kraagenskul, etc.), obviously a second normal weapon isn't going to work and thus you can't apply the Weaponmastery bonus. My setup was The Sommerswerd with a plain ol' Dagger. I'll have to bring my Shield along for those battles next time. Also, there were a few battles in which I forgot to make the EP I lost due to Psi-Surge use un-restorable by Curing. Oops.
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Post by Zipp on Oct 13, 2004 21:01:28 GMT
To specify on my system, rest means any night spent at an inn or any rest which recovers endurance points.
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Post by Zipp on Oct 13, 2004 21:26:46 GMT
One thing always bothered me. Don't you have to take the spear finding path in book 2 in order to survive the Helghasts?
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Post by Zipp on Oct 13, 2004 21:33:36 GMT
Oh wait, i guess if you have animal kinship ya don't need the spear. Kay. Generally I never choose animal kinship until mission 3, though. No wonder I never knew of it.
And you lose all your gold this way too, though gold ain't that hard to come by for a warrior lord like LW...
And a gambler lord, at that...
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Post by Grayzie on Oct 14, 2004 10:50:34 GMT
Ultimately, that's not too important, because as soon as book 6, you can get Weaponmastery which replaces the Weaponskill bonus. Excellent point, I stand corrected; one can definitely make do without Weaponskill.
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Post by Grayzie on Oct 14, 2004 10:57:04 GMT
Oh wait, i guess if you have animal kinship ya don't need the spear. Kay. Generally I never choose animal kinship until mission 3, though. No wonder I never knew of it. And you lose all your gold this way too, though gold ain't that hard to come by for a warrior lord like LW... And a gambler lord, at that... Another slight case-in-point about my "cheating"; I always choose Animal Kinship in book 2 for just this reason.
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Post by simkn on Oct 15, 2004 18:10:00 GMT
Not in the Grey Star series. There's usually at least one way to die instantly in almost every event of every book. Agreed... Grey Star is tough in comparison to the regular LW. When I read LW books I rarely run from a battle... I tend to like to fight it out to the bitter end. However, using this approach, it's impossible to successfully finish the first Grey Star book! Spoiler (and question) follows (highlight to read)... I'm referring to the final battle, where you are required to evade a combat to complete the book. Does anyone know of a way around this, or is it really the only way to complete the book?
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Post by Ofecks on Oct 16, 2004 0:15:32 GMT
Nope, it's the only way to win. Evil, isn't it?
BTW, how the hell did you manage to get the text white for your spoiler? Please tell me your secret.
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simkn
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Post by simkn on Oct 16, 2004 1:08:15 GMT
Nope, it's the only way to win. Evil, isn't it? Definitely evil! Haha, I improvised because I couldn't figure out how everyone else got their spoiler text to be off-white! I noticed that if you change the colors with the drop-down menu it puts a (color=) tag (replace ()s with []). Even though white isn't one of the choices in the drop-down menu, I thought I'd try (color=White), and it happened to work! (again, replace ()s with [])
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