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Post by Black Cat on Mar 20, 2005 2:01:30 GMT
What those essays leave out is that the name Smurf is a cleverly disguised acronym: Socialist Men Under Red Father. Come on, that's paranoia! The Smurfs were created by a French guy, and he named them "Schtroumpfs", which isn't of course an acronym for commies or something like that.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 20, 2005 9:11:43 GMT
Come on, that's paranoia! The Smurfs were created by a French guy, and he named them "Schtroumpfs", which isn't of course an acronym for commies or something like that. I could be wrong, but I thought the guy who invented them was Belgian . . .
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Post by Zipp on Mar 20, 2005 10:36:27 GMT
Wow. I never would've thought I'd hear the words Smurf and Lone Wolf used in the same conversation.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 20, 2005 12:17:35 GMT
The name of the creator of the Smurfs was Pierre Culliford, but everybody called him Peyo. I don't know whether he was French or Belgian, because although his name sounds French, it could be otherwise. He was going to school in Brussels, then when he left became an illustrator, working in Belgium. He created the Smurfs as part of another comic, as secondary characters, but they went on to become huge locally and then around the world. Isn't that just smurfy? ~Relenoir, who only knows this because he went to the official Smurf website to look it up!
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Post by outspaced on Mar 20, 2005 13:23:28 GMT
I don't know whether he was French or Belgian, because although his name sounds French, it could be otherwise. What language do you think they speak in Belgium, Rel?
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 20, 2005 16:22:56 GMT
I said that he was a French guy, but I should have said that he was speaking French instead. Sorry for the confusion. Peyo created the Smurfs as second characters for a story of the Johan et Pirlouit series. Along with other illustrators, like Morris (Lucky Luke) and André Franquin (Spirou et Fantasio), he worked for the Journal Spirou, which created a new style in the European comic strips, and was eventually nicknamed L'École de Marcinelle because of the name of the Brussel's suburb where the journal was based.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 21, 2005 1:11:38 GMT
What language do you think they speak in Belgium, Rel? Umm, Waffle? Relenoir, who should have known that since Jean-Claude Van Damme spoke French, and I used to watch a lot of those movies. . . Now I'm craving Belgian waffles, with strawberries and whipped cream.
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Post by Zipp on Mar 21, 2005 1:54:25 GMT
Has anyone ever read Asterix and Obelix?
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 21, 2005 2:36:01 GMT
Has anyone ever read Asterix and Obelix? Hey, that's a classic of the French litterature! ;D I own all the books, and I'm in reading them in order right now. I'm at book 26 now (don't know its name in English, but that is when they go in Palestine and Israel). There's supposed to be a new book by the end of autumn.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 21, 2005 9:58:14 GMT
Zipp: Yeah, I use to be a big fan of Asterix stories when I was younger. I've still got a huge collection of most of them.
[Oh God, here I go again . . .]
Were you aware that there are Asterix gamebooks as well? ;D
BC: A new Asterix book this year? Isn't at least one of the two guys wrote wrote/drew them, Rene Goscinny, deceased?
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Post by Zipp on Mar 21, 2005 18:59:52 GMT
I am aware that they were gamebooks. They included a bunch of superflous material, didn't they, which you use to solve puzzles and the like?
I have never read the comics, but have wanted to.
Yes, the original author is dead.
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Post by deiseach on Mar 21, 2005 19:53:28 GMT
What language do you think they speak in Belgium, Rel? They speak French and Flemish, which is really Dutch. If you think Canada is schizophrenic about language, wait 'til you encounter the Belgians. As for Asterix, I believe Americans are not big into France's finest whether it be the little Gaul or Zinedine Zidane. But you're missing out on both counts. Asterix is absolutely brilliant. Zinedine isn't so hot now though
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Post by Zipp on Mar 21, 2005 20:08:48 GMT
Asterix was actually quite popoular over here not too long ago. My generation sorta missed it, and the new generation*shudder* doesn't give a rat's ass about anything interesting at all.
That was my grumpy old man coming through.
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Post by outspaced on Mar 21, 2005 21:18:49 GMT
I am aware that they were gamebooks. They included a bunch of superflous material, didn't they, which you use to solve puzzles and the like? Some did, yeah. You got a coin pouch that told you what Section # to go to if you for each different # of GPs you spent, a dice to decide whether Asterix, Obelix, or Dogmatix chose the next pathway etc. The illustrations were b+w reproductions of Uderzo's drawings from various Asterix books. A second Asterix gamebook series was a straightforward gamebook without the extra doolies, though they were A4-sized and full-colour, containing new Uderzo illustrations throughout.
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 22, 2005 3:57:37 GMT
BC: A new Asterix book this year? Isn't at least one of the two guys wrote wrote/drew them, Rene Goscinny, deceased? Yep, he died in 1978. Uderzo completed the last synopsis that he had from him, Astérix chez les Belges (Asterix in Belgium) in 1979. On the official English website, though, the English version is not listed. Anyway, Uderzo started doing the texts himself and the drawings for the next albums, starting with 1980's The Great Divide. After 7 albums that he made alone (the last one was Asterix and the Actress in 2002), the next one will be launch in September. BTW, the cartoon movie Asterix and the Vikings will be launch this April in Europe. Man, are we off topic? ;D
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