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Post by beowuuf on Jan 15, 2012 20:31:46 GMT
Indeed, the Maakengorge is quite old, it is mentioned in the MC that it was formed in MS 3055, 17 years before the Darklords walked on Magnamund and 389 years before the Sommlending came ashore!
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Post by Vadron on Jan 16, 2012 17:58:36 GMT
The biggest moment for me is in book 5. Lone Wolf has sneaked into the palace of Zakhan Kimah to get Oede herb. He has found the Oede herb. You'd expect him to hightail it out of there, but no- he randomly decides to go on a tiki tour of the palace. Particularly the Zakhan's private enclave. What the heck?
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Jan 27, 2012 5:15:22 GMT
Indeed, the Maakengorge is quite old, it is mentioned in the MC that it was formed in MS 3055, 17 years before the Darklords walked on Magnamund and 389 years before the Sommlending came ashore! So it must be an old Shianti road network it cut in 2. They built em to last didn't they! 2000 years & it's still usable enough to appear on maps!
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Post by kolinovic on Jan 27, 2012 9:12:21 GMT
Likewise with a road that heads south near Boradon that clearly hasn't been in use since the Tentarias was formed!
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Post by Thomas Wolmer on Jan 27, 2012 22:35:54 GMT
Indeed, the Maakengorge is quite old, it is mentioned in the MC that it was formed in MS 3055, 17 years before the Darklords walked on Magnamund and 389 years before the Sommlending came ashore! So it must be an old Shianti road network it cut in 2. They built em to last didn't they! 2000 years & it's still usable enough to appear on maps! Either that, or Lyris (which exists at least since 1270) used to extent further north before the Maakengorge was formed, and it is an old Lyrisian road.
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Post by beowuuf on Jan 28, 2012 8:16:50 GMT
Cloesia certainly stretched across that region until the Maakengorge formed, so it could be left over roads from those old empires connecting to each other. After all, Anari and Cloesia would have more in common with each other than Sommerlund did with teither place later.
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Jan 29, 2012 23:04:42 GMT
So it must be an old Shianti road network it cut in 2. They built em to last didn't they! 2000 years & it's still usable enough to appear on maps! Either that, or Lyris (which exists at least since 1270) used to extent further north before the Maakengorge was formed, and it is an old Lyrisian road. I never knew Lyris was so old. Either way, there's Magic in them thar roads. Can't think of many roads 2000 years old, left unmaintained, that still appear on road maps....
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Post by beowuuf on Jan 30, 2012 5:23:02 GMT
There are a few Roman roads that still exist as dirt tracks to this day.
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Post by primefalcon on Jan 30, 2012 10:26:46 GMT
There are a few Roman roads that still exist as dirt tracks to this day. Good point... good point
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Post by Valanthe on Jan 30, 2012 15:44:07 GMT
There are a few Roman roads that still exist as dirt tracks to this day. Yeah this is sort of the impression I had. Thanks for bringing it up I had a bit of issue with the fate of the Crocaryx, the lizard folks under Tahou. They just pass off the Lorestone then fade into oblivion? Can't they come to the surface or continue their merry lived under the ground? Plus with those awesome weapons wouldn't they be a nice ally to have versus the darklords? Why can't (and I suppose in my play through I could have asked this but didn't) they join you? It seems so terrible that you take away the stone and they all just die off. It bothered me, it did.
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Post by primefalcon on Jan 31, 2012 2:50:58 GMT
Yeah I remember that playing on me a little as well.... If they were given extended lives it wouldn't of bothered me so much....
But I remember reading about lonewolf seeing one of there eggs, which means that they must of still been aging and dying and having young ones grow up.....
So killing off their civilisation was not well..... fair...... They should of been rewarded not..... killed
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Post by Snowshadow on Jan 31, 2012 14:52:41 GMT
Yeah I remember that playing on me a little as well.... If they were given extended lives it wouldn't of bothered me so much.... But I remember reading about lonewolf seeing one of there eggs, which means that they must of still been aging and dying and having young ones grow up..... So killing off their civilisation was not well..... fair...... They should of been rewarded not..... killed That egg [11] is the Lorestone - [200] tells of a golden light and then an egg descending which splits into the Lorestone. I always assumed that the Lorestone prolongs life of the stewards - Nyxator trapped with the lorestones lives for thousands of years too. Lone Wolf, who absorbs and replenishes the golden light also ages 1 year in 4 - is it the same for all Grand Masters? So when the Lorestone of Tahou is removed the Crocaryx age, just like the Dakomyd in Book 6 "Time has caught up with this ancient Terror".
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Post by Rusty Radiator on Jan 31, 2012 22:32:42 GMT
Yeah I remember that playing on me a little as well.... If they were given extended lives it wouldn't of bothered me so much.... But I remember reading about lonewolf seeing one of there eggs, which means that they must of still been aging and dying and having young ones grow up..... So killing off their civilisation was not well..... fair...... They should of been rewarded not..... killed That egg [11] is the Lorestone - [200] tells of a golden light and then an egg descending which splits into the Lorestone. I always assumed that the Lorestone prolongs life of the stewards - Nyxator trapped with the lorestones lives for thousands of years too. Lone Wolf, who absorbs and replenishes the golden light also ages 1 year in 4 - is it the same for all Grand Masters? So when the Lorestone of Tahou is removed the Crocaryx age, just like the Dakomyd in Book 6 "Time has caught up with this ancient Terror". Yeah, and Zahda. The Cocaryx were only around a few hundred years though.... Zaaryx wasn't the original resting place of the lorestone, they only came about because some skittish Anarian lobbed it down the Cauldron in blind panic. ;D
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Post by Gazguz on Feb 25, 2012 5:54:08 GMT
I haven't read the books in years, but I always assumed the various scars on the surface like the various gorges and the fire lake around helgedad were caused when Naar was trying to get Nyxator.
Regarding my haang on a minute aspect of the series, was that if all the Kai gather together for a ceremony every year wouldn't that make the Kai Monestary the last place you would want to attack.
When they are at their strongest, with all those Grand Masters with their psychic abilities and fighting abilities.
I could understand it if the attack starts with some sort of ranged attack from a distance like some incoming meteorite that is redirected via magic to take out the majority in one blow and perhaps Vonatar uses his left hand magic to blind them to their impending doom.
But considering the size of Magnamund and that fact that journeymen go out to get experience in the world, I find it difficult to believe they all manage to get back to the Kai Monastery for a party once a year.
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Post by Oiseau on Feb 25, 2012 15:59:58 GMT
I think that's an instance of a retroactive glitch. Think back to the first books, when Magnamund was basically the Darklands, Sommerlund and Durenor, with something called Vassagonia far away and the icy Kalte to the North. Back then, it was perfectly plausible for the Kai to unite once a year. It's only when you consider the subsequent development of Magnamund, and the spread of the Kai to basically everywhere, that the great Fehmarn Feast Kai Reunion no longer seems feasable.
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