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Post by Runeheart on Jun 17, 2005 5:16:07 GMT
I don't think it is a definite, the RPG book actually asks this question, gives the reader some ideas and inspiration ( such as non-Sommlending Kai are very rare, like one in a generation) but does not entirely close the issue. Maybe some others know what answers are discussed at other forums....
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Post by Al on Jun 17, 2005 9:12:00 GMT
I do not know the answer, but I do know that the intermingling of bloodlines is rampant, their is scientific evidence that 10% of the population does not know who their real father is (their mothers had affairs and got pregnant by them... think about that, scary eh?) Given that, and how old the institution of the Kai is, then probably half of Magnamund has Kia blood. What the issue would be is how you would find a non Semmlending who has enough Kia blood to have the powers... given racial intermingling, their are probably lots of them.
Must say, really enjoying this thread.
Flying Boats rule.
Al
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Post by Runeheart on Jun 17, 2005 9:22:09 GMT
In another thread (I don't know if we are allowed to cross-pollinate topics), I was informed that blue stars are really doom stones and after outspaced's compelling explanation (I cannot quote from others, so Reply 20 & 24 in this thread, if it helps), I know the identity of the surviving Darklord and if it please the council I formally charge outspaced as a spy, a traitor and a the next evil dude to try and raise Vashna from Maakengorge. Don't say I didn't warn you. ( now where did I leave that curved bladed dagger, I know it's important for something).  |
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Post by Al on Jun 17, 2005 9:23:53 GMT
The best kind of enemy, the one that worms his way in and makes you think he is your ally... so Emperor Palpitine, if I do say so myself!
Al
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Post by outspaced on Jun 17, 2005 9:27:03 GMT
Discovering whether a youngester has the Kai 'principle' seems rather a hit-and-miss affair: some Kai Journeyman turns up in a village somewhere looknig for children. Perhaps there are many more Sommlending who have the abilities but are never tested while still young enough to be taken to the Monastery. I'd guess in a feudal system like Sommerlund, most children are learning their father's trade by about 8 or 9; and maybe many parents are unwilling to let their child disappear off to some strange ranch with some middle-aged man. The Legends series supports that idea; most secondary characters in the books seem to possess latent Kai abilities (Viveka, the Innkeeper in Ragadorn, Q******--probably even Banedon would have if the series had continued  ). And just for the record, I'm inclined to agree that the number of Darklords issue might have been "Writer Error". Isn't there also a problem with the dates in Voyage of the Moonstone contradicting another book? I can't quite remember what it is right now, but I know there's a thread about it somewhere on this forum. |
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Post by North Star on Jun 17, 2005 9:36:56 GMT
You know, this is what I'd call blatant necromancy, resurrecting a YEAR-old thread to write something any fan could easily work out anyway. But if Thomas and Outs don't mind, who am I to complain?
NS.
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Post by Runeheart on Jun 17, 2005 10:30:59 GMT
I have just worked out why Vashna is undeaded and the other DLs that LW directly fought are dead-deaded(?), anyway, LW being a fully fledged Kai using all his abilities can achieve total success where Ulnar, being untrained but probably having raw talent, could not do the job properly(ie, by doing the big fireball thing with the Sommersword), also, was Vashna dead when he fell into Maakongorge or mortally wounded( I am going to research)
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Post by Al on Jun 17, 2005 12:20:56 GMT
Also, was Vashna not some sort of super Darklord? I am not sure if their is a disctinction made between him and the others, but from what I have read he seems to have been much more powerful than the others, that could account for something.
Al
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Post by Runeheart on Jun 17, 2005 12:52:30 GMT
Yes, Vashna was a super DL , he was named the Archlord of Helgedad, but Zagarna, Haakon and Gnaag were all Archlords at different times, so yes Vashna did have more power then others when he was alive ( as their leader), but was it greater then others? After all Haakon quested and retreived all the Doomstones to reach the Archlordship, and if LW could go further then prevous Kai Lords with the Lorestones what about a DL with all the doomstones.....
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Post by outspaced on Jun 17, 2005 14:04:16 GMT
According to Lone Wolf Club Newsletter #6:
So we can see that Vashna was definitely superior to Zagarna, and also Gnaag (CS50 EP70).
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Post by Al on Jun 17, 2005 14:18:55 GMT
And what about other powers? Intelligence and mind powers and all that good stuff, more to it that simple "hackability", for lack of a better term
Al
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Post by Runeheart on Jun 17, 2005 14:38:38 GMT
Thanx outspaced and point taken. Zagarna was portrayed as a large brute fighter, while Gnaag was physically less intimidating and had greater intellect and ability, I think the higher CS shown in the scores quoted reflect that. Thanx again, I will have to check up on the newsletter back issues as I have never seen them before.
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Post by Dusk Fox on Jun 17, 2005 16:04:33 GMT
By that scale, though, Haakon is the weakest, which would be a shame considering he's my favorite. It'd be nice to know more about the differing strengths and weaknesses of the DLs, however.
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Post by Ghost Bear on Jun 17, 2005 16:09:48 GMT
And what about other powers? Intelligence and mind powers and all that good stuff, more to it that simple "hackability", for lack of a better term Al CS envelops all of these things. Off the top of my head, you can get CS bonuses for wielding a whacking great sword, wearing armour, having psychic powers, surprising an opponent, attacking an opponent quickly, and more. Skill in a fight isn't necessarily being the biggest and most powerful guy. Speed, agility, intelligence, strength, etc etc all make a difference in a fight. -GB |
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Post by Al on Jun 17, 2005 16:11:51 GMT
Not going to disagree with that, but according to Sun Tzu (and I would agree 100% with him) that it is better to put your enemies in a position so they cannot fight you than to actually fight them.
Al
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