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Post by Al on Mar 29, 2006 12:02:21 GMT
BAFTE? What be that? Al
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Post by Moo on Mar 30, 2006 1:19:32 GMT
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. One of many completely pointless branches of the US government. I've managed to successfully combine all 4 in one design, so I'm sure it'll sell great!
Joking. But it is within their jurisdiction. So I need to be absolutely sure my designs aren't illegal before getting a patent. No point in spending boatloads of cash patenting something that no one can make. Just need to be really careful with the phrasing. They've made some weird rulings before, like the 14 inch shoelace thing. They ruled that a 14 inch shoelace is a machine gun. Quick, hide your shoes!
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Post by gabbe01 on Mar 30, 2006 9:44:05 GMT
They ruled that a 14 inch shoelace is a machine gun. Quick, hide your shoes! Nice to know morons still thrive in this day of age. btw,can I hold a bank at dual shoelacepoint? what would be the penalty for that? An Aussie bootkicking?(yes I have seen to many simpsons)
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Post by Moo on Mar 30, 2006 22:20:47 GMT
Found the link! www.jpfo.org/shoestring.jpgPenalty for possession of an unregistered machine gun (no new machine guns could be registered after 1986, so all legal machine guns are 20 years old or older, and require a $200 tax stamp and a 5 month waiting period to transfer ownership) is a fine up to $250,000 USD and up to 10 years in jail.
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Post by Al on Mar 31, 2006 10:15:09 GMT
That is just rediculous, Machine Guns are area effect weapons, no useful for huntnig or personal/home defence... I cannot believe that the right to own them was grandfathered!
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Post by Moo on Apr 1, 2006 12:59:38 GMT
Actually, one very prominent gun control organization has been quoted saying that machine guns are less dangerous than semi-auto rifles. Well, actually they were saying semi-auto rifles are more dangerous than machine guns, but it's the same thing. Anyway, I think you'd have a hard time convincing some people that machine guns are "area effect" weapons, given how incredibly commonly they're issued to police. Especially in Europe. European police departments love submachine guns. In most European countries, like Spain, France, Germany, etc., submachine guns are issued to plain old patrol officers just as often as handguns. I don't think they'd be giving those officers "area effect" weapons, considering that they're surrounded by people constantly. Where's that picture I had? Here it is. That picture really cracks me up for some reason. In reality, machine guns have two basic types and two basic uses. One is crew-served machine guns, like the M-60. Those are mostly used for suppressing fire, and a very limited amount of area effect. But mostly just for making noise and keeping heads down. The second has no specific name; just relatively lightweight, compact machine guns used in close quarters to get multiple hits on a single target. Assault rifles were meant to be a compromise, usable for both suppressing fire at long range and multiple hits at close range. It's the second kind that's most relevant to both law enforcement and private citizens. Really, it makes absolutely no sense to give police more rights than other people. The police can't be everywhere, and response times are usually anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour. Actually, a survey of American criminals in jail found that 57% were more afraid of meeting an armed victim, than they were of running into the police. Aside from that, machine guns just plain aren't used by criminals that often. Despite the fact that there are several machine guns missing from National Guard arsenals and a couple dozen registered machine guns stolen, there's been only one crime committed with machine guns in the USA recently. The North Hollywood bank robbery in 1997, where the criminals used originally legal semi-automatic AK-47 clones with illegal "lightning links" (which any idiot with some scrap metal and a dremel can make from scratch, and often do) installed. No police killed, both robbers killed. The most recent crime before that was the Saint Valentine's Day massacre in 1929. That's almost a 68 year interval. And up until 1986, new machine guns could be manufactured and registered, no problem, except for the tax and the wait. Currently, because of the GOPA of 1986, machine guns start at $3000 for a Mac 10 that cost $20 to manufacture. M-16s start at $12,000. Plus a $200 tax stamp and a 5 to 8 month wait time for the paperwork to clear. Machine guns in private civilian hands are basically just very expensive toys. Very dangerous toys if used irresponsibly. But exactly the same goes for high-performance cars, just without all the legislation.
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Post by al Wahid on Apr 30, 2006 16:48:45 GMT
I am a fifth grade teacher in the USA.
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Post by North Star on Apr 30, 2006 23:20:45 GMT
Bravo on getting a job, Zipp! As for me. I'm still working as an admin assistant at a college for people with autism spectrum disorders.
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