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Post by Doomy on Mar 12, 2005 21:54:14 GMT
There have definitely been some regional differences with the PSOne Final Fantasy re-releases. The releases I have been talking about are all UK PAL versions which I have bought. Us Brits never got Chronicles (ie the one with Chrono Trigger). This is why we got IV and V in the same box (called Anthology, NOT Anthologies) and VI came out as a budget standalone title. I don't know whether Chrono Trigger was ever released in the UK. If it was, presumably it didn't sell. My copy of Final Fantasy Anthology is subtitled "European Edition". I think that says it all.
Edit: On reflection I am pretty sure that the first Square game EVER released in Europe was FFVII
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 1:04:04 GMT
Wait wait... you guys never got THE chrono trigger?! The game that set the standard for RPG's and continues to even today?! The game ranked the best RPG of all time?! You never got it?!
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Post by Peregrine on Mar 13, 2005 4:35:29 GMT
I'm with you, Doomy. Australia's a PAL territory and we usually get the same releases as Europe as a result (well, the English releases, that is, and only when DVD regioning doesn't apply: we're Region 4). FFVII was the first PlayStation one, and I'm not positive whether the earlier Nintendo titles got released to us or not. (I don't think so.) FFVI was definitely a standalone when it was rereleased for Playstation (original game with new, high-quality cutscenes), as I've got that one myself. As for III, now that I think about it, the Anthology was definitely IV and V -- but I have this suspicion I saw III, somewhere, somewhen... maybe... (Do keep in mind that some of the Final Fantasies were earlier released in the US with a somewhat deformed numbering system -- I don't recall the details right now but it shouldn't be too hard to research. Kind of like Legends of Lone Wolf, really...) There've been other releases as well: I know there's some Chronicles collection on some platform (PS2? GC?), but what games it is I don't know. And I believe that FF Tactics got its first Australian release on the GBA.
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Post by Doomy on Mar 13, 2005 6:59:13 GMT
Wait wait... you guys never got THE chrono trigger?! The game that set the standard for RPG's and continues to even today?! The game ranked the best RPG of all time?! You never got it?! For the longest time gaming industry top brass were convinced that Eurogamers were only interested in jumping on Koopa Troopers and would never buy an RPG. I think the cost of translating into all the major European languages was also a deterrent, but primarily it was a question of how they perceived the market here. It wasn't until Square decided to work with Sony instead of Nintendo that we started getting some of their titles. We didn't get FF Tactics though! Peregrine - I don't know anything about FFIII getting a rerelease but you are right to say that the numbering system went a bit funny in the States.
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 7:38:17 GMT
To be exact: the numbering started with FF 1 obviously being FF1. But then FF4 (being the next to be released in the US) got titled FF2. FF6 became FF3.
Then FF7 came out and people went "huh? WTF?"
I bet you guys didn't get Mystic Quest, then. That was American made, I believe the only final fantasy to ever be released in America before Japan!
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Post by Doomy on Mar 13, 2005 7:47:51 GMT
What's a Mystic Quest? I was in the process of adding a lot of stuff to my last post when my PC crashed. Basically I was going into a fair bit of detail about Eurogamers being second-class citizens, paying more for a smaller choice of games which run slower. At least the latter problem seems to have been addressed nowadays!
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 17:07:38 GMT
Sqaure Soft has a company in America too, mostly handling translations and the like. However, once in a very great while, they get an idea for a game and make it. The only examples I can think of are Secret of Evermore (a gameplay sequel to Secret of Mana) and Final Fantasy Mystic Quest (influenced by FF4). Mystic Quest was cool because it added puzzle solving to the mix. Generally you had to solve some sort of puzzle to get through a dungeon. Monsters weren't random, you could see them on screen and touching them entered you into combat. Monsters also had two different GIFs on the battle screen. One was when they were feeling okay and one was when they were about to die. That was pretty cool. Mixed with lots of different weapon choices and a fairly large cast, the gameplay was solid. The story, however, was... lacking. It wasn't that it wasn't entertaining. It just didn't develop beyond the first 5 minutes of the game.
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 13, 2005 17:15:06 GMT
I have a game made by Square Soft: Mario RPG: Quest for the Seven Stars on the SNES. That was the first RPG video game that I played, and I liked it a lot.
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 18:27:57 GMT
A very excellent one, in fact. One I recently finished again. Though I have to admit that it has lost a little of its glamour over time.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 13, 2005 20:43:10 GMT
That's right, Origins is the one I need. Have Anthology with 5 and 6 (formerly 3 in the U.S. for Super Nintendo) and Chronicles was 4 (formerly 2 in the U.S. for Super Nintendo) with Chronotrigger.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 13, 2005 20:57:34 GMT
Just realized there was a third page to this thread. . . I had Mystic Quest in my old video game collection, and I'd have to agree with Zipp that it was a bit lacking. It seemed like it was a lower difficulty, almost like a kid's version of FF. I enjoyed it somewhat because it was an FF game, but found it disappointing overall. I also used to have Super Mario RPG, and was enjoying it, but never managed to finish it. Meant to get back to it but didn't, and I never see it anywhere to replace it. Secret of Evermore was a sequel to Secret of Mana? I really didn't see it that way. A boy and his dog travelling through time that create spells out of components vs. 3 warriors who cast by using abilities of summon spirits like Luna, Lumina, and Shadow (I don't remember the others, it's been a really long time) didn't seem at all connected except for the company that made them (Squaresoft). Good games, both, I enjoyed them a lot, but I didn't see them as sequential. Furthermore, I thought I remembered seeing a sequel to the Secret of Mana a while back, not sure how long ago.
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 22:06:05 GMT
No no no It was a GAMEPLAY sequel. Sorry, I was using Gamer speak. This means that the Gameplay is nearly identical, but the story isn't related. There are a number of "sequels" to Secret of Mana, though in pure Square Soft fashion, none of them seem to relate beyond remote inferences and a few names. The most recent is for the Gameboy Advance, but I don't know much beyond that except that apparantly there are two games, each following a different character. If you play with a friend and complete both games, the story is supposed to come together. Or you can play both yourself and pretend you're your own friend.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 13, 2005 22:39:23 GMT
No no no It was a GAMEPLAY sequel. Sorry, I was using Gamer speak. This means that the Gameplay is nearly identical, but the story isn't related. Oh, okay. That makes more sense now. It did have similar windows and style, yes. Hm, may have to try that after I finish school next year!
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Post by Zipp on Mar 13, 2005 23:03:55 GMT
You would probably like Earthbound, Rel. Not sure if you ever picked it up, it's an older one, around the time of FF6.
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Post by Doomy on Mar 13, 2005 23:34:59 GMT
Did I mention - and unless you know it already, Zipp, I can imagine you will be horrified - Final Fantasy Tactics never came out in the UK!
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