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Kai Lord
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Post by andyc on Nov 2, 2021 13:18:22 GMT
Some of the Mongoose BAs aren't that great or outright go against established lore so I can understand that they may not want to officially canonise them with a Holmgard Press release. Not just some of the ones published by Mongoose that aren't that good: the one in book 27, 'Shadow Stalkers', should be edited (my full opinion here) and I know I'm not the only one thinking like that ( andyc: I know that in your case, you loved it). I don't exactly share this opinion, but I even saw someone on Facebook saying that it was an insult to the customers who bought the book from Holmgard Press!  That's the problem with Facebook, there can always be some looney with a too extreme reaction! At least a re-release of Shadow Stalkers gives them the opportunity to correct all the typos and mistranslations. Unfortunately this issue has come up in other Holmgard Press BAs which makes me worry a little about the DEs. Hopefully those books have had a larger number of people involved who could have picked up errors, especially after the years of corrections on Project Aon. |
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Post by spartanroarke on Nov 10, 2021 15:01:31 GMT
Updated covers for DE 2-3 are up on Magnamund and Facebook. They look great.
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Post by palarran on Dec 26, 2021 19:51:42 GMT
I ordered (and paid for) the Definitives Edition 1-3 at the end of October, haven't heard anything from Holmgard Ltd ever since.
Anyone here has had any news on their own orders?
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Post by lorddarkstorm on Dec 26, 2021 21:41:12 GMT
I ordered (and paid for) the Definitives Edition 1-3 at the end of October, haven't heard anything from Holmgard Ltd ever since. Anyone here has had any news on their own orders?
I got an order confirmation in October, but other than that, no. But I would not have expected anything else since they said the books are shipping in January. |
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Post by Black Cat on Dec 26, 2021 23:42:40 GMT
But I would not have expected anything else since they said the books are shipping in January. Like it says on the cover picture of the official Facebook page: "Coming in January". Next time you'll get news is when they will start shipping them or if there is a delay.  |
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Post by palarran on Dec 28, 2021 10:06:34 GMT
Thanks for the info, seems I have missed this note as I'm not on Facebook. Somehow I thought having read about a release date this year.
Well, more good things to look forward to in 2022!  |
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Post by Black Cat on Dec 28, 2021 16:32:14 GMT
Thanks for the info, seems I have missed this note as I'm not on Facebook. Somehow I thought having read about a release date this year. There was a mention back in July, in the official newsletter, that the books would be released in October. However, that month, it was instead announced that pre-orders were opened for a January release. |
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Post by spartanroarke on Jan 6, 2022 13:54:02 GMT
Definitive Eds. 1-3 delayed to February. But it sounds like there is some serious attention being paid to quality, which is great news.
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Post by Black Cat on Jan 6, 2022 16:18:26 GMT
Next time you'll get news is when they will start shipping them or if there is a delay. Aaaaaannnnnnndddddd... there's a (slight) delay!  link |
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Post by Lucy Van Pelt on Jan 19, 2022 3:59:33 GMT
Next time you'll get news is when they will start shipping them or if there is a delay. Aaaaaannnnnnndddddd... there's a (slight) delay! linkI have yet to make my purchase decision |
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Post by anotherknight on Jan 21, 2022 17:44:44 GMT
I am not sure if the best for the end of LW Saga is being executed by a person who knows very little about LW.
And his behaviour regarding the LW fans is at least questionable, for no to say he broke the moral and legal agreement
between Aon and the books.
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Post by GhostofLandar on Jan 28, 2022 20:00:34 GMT
I am not sure if the best for the end of LW Saga is being executed by a person who knows very little about LW. And his behaviour regarding the LW fans is at least questionable, for no to say he broke the moral and legal agreement between Aon and the books. Can you clarify what you mean? Do you mean Joe's son Ben executing the end? While he didn't know as much, Vincent L. is an expert and loves the universe Joe created. What do you mean by "behavior regarding the LW fans" and broke moral and legal agreement? Who and what part was broken? Did I miss an announcement? |
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Post by Draugohtar on Jan 30, 2022 10:39:57 GMT
I think I understand what anotherknight meant.
Correct me if I'm wrong, it's just an opinion 😉
I have nothing negative to say about Ben or Vincent regarding LW, or anything else for all that matters but I can't say I was thrilled by the new definitive edition.
We embarked in a reprint of a collector's edition of books most of us already owned; that went through Mongoose Publishing, Mantikore-Verlag, Cubicle 7 and Holmgard Press during the last 15 years and 30 volumes published. When only 2 volumes were to be released, 28 and 32, a new definitive edition appears, delaying for at least for 2 more years the end of the saga.
I would have been happier with a release of the 28 and 32 before a definitive edition, where I could get my hand on a LW 15 at some point in 2023 to finally have all the collection proudly showing in my library.
Anyway, I am happy for the publishing and I am looking forward for new reprints like Autumn Snow, Grey Star and other surprises whenever possible.
Cheers
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Post by GhostofLandar on Jan 30, 2022 15:24:54 GMT
Ahhh, I guess I had not heard anything about the Definitive Edition really (or not remembered.) And I did not know that it was delaying #32, which is a big disappointment.
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Post by Black Cat on Jan 30, 2022 16:31:29 GMT
I don't think the "delay" is that important for the publication of book 32. We got book 30 in 2019 and 31 in 2020, and these books needed to be written. We did not get a book in 2021 but at the same time, there was a pandemic which probably slowed the production process like in so many industries. In 2022, we will get an extended version of book 28, which will need to be written (not only the new 50 sections, but all the links between the existing sections and the new ones). And then, in 2023, we will get book 32. IIRC, the extended version of book 28 was always intended to be published before book 32. So instead of being published in 2022, book 32 will be published in 2023, one year later, and this delay could be linked to the pandemic.
What really delayed the whole process of publishing the series was the death of Dever: we got 13 books between 2007 and 2009 by Mongoose Publishing (this fast pace was not necessarily a good thing for the quality of the books...) and then, it slowed down to a more reasonable one or two books a year until 2016 (including book 29). I remember that fall, when he posted on his Facebook page that he was going to the hospital for a small surgery and that after that, book 30 was going to be published... He never came out of that hospital and we had to wait three years before a new book came out. But after that, between 2019 and 2021, we got 7 books in just three years, a rhythm that has not been seen since the Mongoose days. In 2023, after book 32 is published, it will mark 16 years since the beginning of the republication of the series in 2007. That's an average of 2 books a year... the same rhythm of publication of the original series (28 books in 14 years, between 1984 and 1998). I think that without Joe's death, book 32 would had been published in 2020. Otherwise, I'm not complaining for the time it takes: I think the rhythm is good and a faster pace would had not been necessarily a good thing.
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