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Post by Relenoir on Mar 16, 2005 13:03:28 GMT
Yeah, if Ixiataaga is not undead, then who is? I always doubled damage... which just meant I had to survive 3-4 rounds at -7 or something like that. His endurance is quite low, a bit more than half his CS !! His EP are fairly low for his power level, and the SS does do double damage against him as far as I'm concerned. Like everyone else said, he's got to be undead. So you probably start with about the same EP as Ixy, who has you at -7 or so, but you do double damage. Remember, (spoiler) Demonlord Tagazin softens you up first! He's got a 55 CS, and you have to fight him twice, and maybe some Lavas too! It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the other combats. ~Relenoir, who resolves to save some adgana for the next time he fights the Deathlord.
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Post by Sol on Mar 16, 2005 17:28:46 GMT
Ixy slaughtered me!!!
I don't see how you can possibly beat him without Kai Surge. How could you ever get your CS high enough? I mean Zow! Reasons such as this encourage me to do WM stacking.
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Post by Relenoir on Mar 17, 2005 12:32:35 GMT
Ixy slaughtered me!!! I don't see how you can possibly beat him without Kai Surge. How could you ever get your CS high enough? I mean Zow! Reasons such as this encourage me to do WM stacking.
Yeah, I know what you mean!
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Post by TheGreatBanedon on Apr 5, 2005 18:20:56 GMT
sry for posting so later but im new and i have just read this post from what i understand....are all DarkLords undead? I obviously took Ixia as undead (he woke up by his groove) but not Haakon, to say one of them, and i didnt double the damage made to him by the Sommerswerd. Good job, man.......................
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Post by Zipp on Apr 5, 2005 18:26:10 GMT
Ixiataaga is not a darklord, he is an enchanter who had been forced into early undeath by the Elder Magi aeons ago.
And no, as far as I know, NONE of the Darklords are undead.
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Post by North Star on Apr 6, 2005 9:16:12 GMT
It's very similar to the Sunblade (I'm not entirely sure that the Sommerswerd WASN'T a Sunblade originally). Undead, Negative Plane creatures and evil outsiders all take bucket-loads of extra damage. Clearly though, the Sommerswerd is also a holy weapon with the special purpose to use Destruction vs. Darklords!
NS.
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Post by Peregrine on Apr 6, 2005 10:23:01 GMT
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Post by TheGreatBanedon on Apr 6, 2005 11:04:56 GMT
Thx for the explanation Zipp but i read this passage from online Book 3 of LW : "...Before you can do anything else, you must fight the monster to the death. This is an Akraa'Neonor: one of the undead. Remember to double all ENDURANCE points lost by this enemy during the combat, due to the power of the Sommerswerd." Nothing to say. But if i read the same passage in italian's edition the words are "...Before anything else, you must fight the monster to the death. This night creature, like an undead, lose during the fight the double of his ENDURANCE points, due to the power of the Sommeswerd." He is classified as a night creature...in this case all Darklords are surely undead...this caused me many doubts...i didnt take the "undead way" to make the game more difficult.
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Post by North Star on Apr 6, 2005 12:13:13 GMT
In English, at least, "like" indicates something akin to something else, but without being it. Thus, it is simply saying that night creatures also take damage the same way undead do.
NS.
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Post by TheGreatBanedon on Apr 6, 2005 13:50:01 GMT
Thus, it is simply saying that night creatures also take damage the same way undead do. NS. Sorry I used bad words. I wanted to say I supposed that all DarkLords were night creatures (they live in the world of Darkness, after all) and so I could double the damage. How do you classify these evil guys?
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Post by outspaced on Apr 6, 2005 13:56:39 GMT
Lone Wolf Club Newsletter #10 has something interesting to say on this matter:
The Darklords are therefore not undead, and so despite being 'offspring of Naar', the Sommerswerd does not deal double damage to them.
Edit: To clarify, the undead are not subject to death; they are "destroyed" by the Sommerswerd, but could not die naturally (since they already did).
Hope it helps!
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Post by North Star on Apr 6, 2005 15:04:32 GMT
The Sommerswerd generally disintegrates Darklords anyhow, so doing double damage to them is REALLY not an issue! NS.
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Apr 6, 2005 15:08:02 GMT
Except, maybe, during an eclipse.
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Apr 7, 2005 6:11:06 GMT
I would have sworn that the Sunblade was in 1st Edition AD&D, which predates Lone Wolf by some years, but nope, it's not in the DM's Guide. The closest equivalent would be the +5 Holy Avenger, which only works for paladins, provides lots of magic resistance, and does extra damage against chaotic evil opponents.
This doesn't mean the Sunblade didn't pop up elsewhere prior to Lone Wolf, though. I'll look into it and see what I turn up.
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Post by North Star on Apr 7, 2005 9:22:13 GMT
After all, it's well-known that Magnamund was Joe's AD&D world.
Great quote from the Mongoose con though:
[Joe, with head in hands, as our 2nd-level party meets August's Helghast] "I wish I'd given them a weakness or something!"
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