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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Apr 7, 2005 15:41:19 GMT
I would have sworn that the Sunblade was in 1st Edition AD&D, which predates Lone Wolf by some years, but nope, it's not in the DM's Guide. It does appear in Ravenloft I6, which is 1st Edition. I'm still trying to track down the year of that module.
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Post by Peregrine on Apr 7, 2005 16:01:31 GMT
1983. (Well, three years before 1986 and Ravenloft II, anyway.) If you're right and the sun blade is in I6, then it predates FftD. Hmph.
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Post by The Tagazin Poodle on Apr 7, 2005 16:17:59 GMT
1983. (Well, three years before 1986 and Ravenloft II, anyway.) If you're right and the sun blade is in I6, then it predates FftD. Hmph. It is in I6, but in two pieces (the blade and the grip or found separately).
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Post by snfcn on Apr 7, 2005 21:38:48 GMT
You know, the idea of a weapon of light harming creatures of darkness is not exactly the most original idea this world has seen. I suppose several different people could have gotten this idea independently.
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Post by Peregrine on Apr 8, 2005 2:00:52 GMT
The Sommerswerd can benefit from Weaponskill, Weaponmastery and Grand Weaponmastery in any size category of sword (short sword, sword, broadsword). The Sommerswerd grants +8 Combat Skill and deals double damage against undead. The Sommerswerd is capable of unleashing a blast of radiant sun-like energy that will obliterate a Darklord. First seen as a beam annihilating Zagarna beneath the walls of Holmgard, it also shone forth when unsheathed in the darkest heart of Helgedad, melting Gnaag into goo. Should any but a Kai Lord ever wield the Sommerswerd, its power will fade forever. Prosecution rests. (No really, I'm going to bed, I've been putting it off for like five hours now.)
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Apr 8, 2005 8:46:21 GMT
Huzzah! Once again 1e AD&D triumphs! (And the original Ravenloft module rocks.)
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Post by Relenoir on Apr 9, 2005 2:15:12 GMT
I loved First Edition. . . *reminisces about Relenoir, the 1st ed. Elven Ranger/Cleric*. . . so many good times! *sigh*
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Apr 9, 2005 13:12:58 GMT
Ranger/Cleric? Wow, that's an odd combination. Don't think I've ever seen tha before. I was a pretty generic combo - halfling thief!
1e was pretty much history by the time I started playing AD&D, which was just about the very same month they released 2e (I started on the Basic Set). I've been reading a lot of the old material lately, though, and getting an idea of just how much fun things were back in those days.
So, to bring things back to Lone Wolf - Magnamund was Joe's homebrew campaign? If so, it's one of the most inventive D&D campaign I've seen. I wonder how close his D&D world was to the one that saw print in the gamebooks?
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Post by Ghost Bear on Apr 10, 2005 21:06:00 GMT
Just because the Sunblade is older than the release of FftD doesn't necessarily mean it's older than the Sommerswerd. The world of Magnamund was in development for a considerable time before the gamebooks were released after all.
-GB
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Post by North Star on Apr 11, 2005 14:23:56 GMT
I believe that that was the general idea, Nathan. I'd guess that Mongoose's d20 offering is fairly close, considering how much input JD has had in it.
NS.
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Apr 12, 2005 12:20:42 GMT
I do wonder how close his original campaign setting was, though, because there are some little discrepancies in the first few books that don't quite match later stuff. I'm thinking here about the Ancients mainly, and the Doomstone found in Ikaya.
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Post by Zipp on Apr 13, 2005 5:42:55 GMT
Remind me once again how the doomstone doesn't add up.
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Post by Nathan P. Mahney on Apr 13, 2005 8:03:55 GMT
I believe that Loi Kymar refers to it as an Evil Stone of the Ancients. Which doesn't really jibe with what we learn about them later. Still, Loi Kymar could be wrong.
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Post by outspaced on Apr 13, 2005 9:05:16 GMT
I dunno, the Shianti are supposed to have been interested in everything: science, magic, geography, etc. The phrasiology of what Loi-Kymar says doesn't preclude the fact that the "Ancients" may have just found this Doomstone and researched it. *shrug*
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Post by Zipp on Apr 13, 2005 16:20:30 GMT
i always assumed that Agarash was pretty ancient. In that context it seemed to make sense.
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